John Cena Injured! **Inc RAW Spoilers**

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

hahaha funniest news of the week. That means a title drop would happen pretty much at No Mercy, propbaly to Orton, but if the SAVE_US.222 angle is Jericho just think of the payback he could get areinstatement match with the man who put him out etc...

Maybe they'll have a pre match anglew where he gets attacked backstage and his father can go into the title match. lol

But seriously doing a Last Man Standing with a busted arm could be hell for Cena. I actually don't think it would be that big a blow for the RAW, HHH is always in the wiongs, the aformetnioned possible retun of Jericho they could elevate Kennedy as the man who put the champ out, Umaga could do it... It's not so bleak. Sure some of those choices are only short term fixes, but you never know, someone like Kennedy could take the opportunity with both hands and make something of it. Plus HBK is also due back soon. So maybe this is a bump they need on RAW to get things moving again.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Seeing how easily Kennedy was jobbed out on RAW, you can cross him off your list...

Totoro101 · Movie Executive Producer

Its never nice to hear about an injury, even if it is John cena who i really have no problem with myself, but it will do the company a well of good to have someone fresh holding the WWE title and giving John a long break from the ring which he deserves.Cena has done pretty well as the WWE champion i think, hes not the greatest wrestler or personality we all know that, but he has had good matches and he does give his all so i really think some of the critics about him are quite harsh.Thats just me though! No doubt if he does have time out, HHH will win the championship even though id love Umaga to get a run.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Cena's out of the PPV reports PWInsider.com and wwe.com:

WWE champion John Cena was diagnosed with a complete tear of his right pectoral muscle today by Dr. James Andrews and is expected to be out 6-8 months following surgery. As first reported last night on PWInsider.com, Cena suffered the tear during a hiptoss spot in the Raw main event against the returning Ken Kennedy. That would put Cena back at the earliest in April (meaning he will miss Wrestlemania) and at the worst, June 2008.

John Cena will be stripped of the WWE championship with a new champion slated to be crowned this Sunday at the No Mercy PPV in Chicago.

So how will they handle this? Give Orton the belt by default and then have someone challenge him (Bionic H?) or put another babyface in Cen'a spot? Or maybe Kennedy could claim he "injured" Cena and he faces Orton?

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

I think the Mystery guy (We hope is Jericho) could come into play here, put him in the main event against Orton.

No Cena till post WM??? Christmas has indeed come early..

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

I'd set up a Title Tournament Culminating at next month's Survivor Series. It would be like the 1998 Survivor Series, only better...

This has opened up so many options for Raw it's unbelieveable, they can finally give some midcarders that desurve a push the rub they need with a Title Tournament.

But as always I'm sure it'll just be awarded willy nilly like it usually is. my one hope is they get rid of that ridiculous looking sham of a belt they have now and replace it with something slightly less tacky.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

On ECW Vince announced that Cena had been stripped of the WWE Title and a new champion will be crowned on Sunday....

..which is carny for "We need a bit more time to work something out to resolve this mess".

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

I believe the only viable options currrently are Orton and Kennedy, unless some like Booker T returns.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Or Bionic H politics his way to the title....

joe the baker · On The Casting Couch

Darth Mattitude wrote:

I think the Mystery guy (We hope is Jericho) could come into play here, put him in the main event against Orton.

No Cena till post WM??? Christmas has indeed come early..

Thats pretty harsh is it not? for nearly 4 years now Cena has busted his ass and barely missed a show and this is the thanks he gets. He has saved a lot of ppvs this year from being total washouts especially summerslam. I know Cena is not the greatest wrestler in the world but the guy WORKS unlike a tool like Batista. I also agree it`s long past time for a new champion,but not like this. At the end of the day I believe people who truly understand pro wrestling will be sorry this happened because WWE have lost a guy who performs to the best of his ability every week without complaint( K fed loss? what other champ would put the business before personal glory there). True fans resepct Cena for what he gives to the business and his personal sacrifices he has made to get to where he is. IDIOTS will post nonsene about celebrating his injury and not having to see him for a while.

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

Please don't get me wrong I'm not celebrating the Injury, just the fact he will be off my TV screen for the forseeable future. I find Cena immensly irritating at best and have done since he turned up on SD!

Also, I feel his Title run was stale and so was RAW because of it. The mere fact we will get a new champ on Sunday night makes No Mercy along wiht the fact that there's a possibility that SAVE_US.222 may turn up although it seems due to the sucess they may milk it a bit longer, the best looking PPV WWE have put on for a while.

joe the baker · On The Casting Couch

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion regarding Cena, I jst find the contsant hating of him a litttle tedious.Bear in mind Cena suffered an extrememely painful injury and not only finished the macth but also went through with the post match beatdown. In this day and age very few wrestlers would have done that. For those actions alone surely he is deemed worthy of a little respect. You find Cena Irritating? I can understand that, but bear in mind he is only saying what he is told to say by the booking team. Cena himself will have almost zero input in his scripts each week.

Anyway Cena is out and there will be a new champ on sunday. I would love WWE to push the boat out and go with Matt Hardy or MVP but strongly suspect everyones "favorite" bgame will be back on top once more.

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

I'm not so sure this time. The WWE are into their 'surprises' to quieten up the internet Smarks. I wouldn't be surprised for it to go on someone that nobody thinks they will put the belt on. I wouldn't be surprised if Ron 'Damn' Simmonds won it currently. He won't, there's more chance of Val Venis (The current leader on wwe.com RAW poll) of winning it and I don't think he'll get it either.

So we will see. Good chance to placate Ric Flair and give him the title run before he retires...

Man In Black · Anime Mod

joe the baker wrote:
True fans resepct Cena for what he gives to the business and his personal sacrifices he has made to get to where he is. IDIOTS will post nonsene about celebrating his injury and not having to see him for a while.

Sorry I have to take issue with this "true fans" stuff. Wrestling fans are wrestling fans with the only sub-divisions being created by the Internet with the fabled "smart" fans vs "marks". And if they genuinely can't stand the guy or are bored to tears with having him rammed down out throats each week that doesn't make them less of a fan. I know guys who can't stnd Ric Flair or Bret Hart and refuse to rate them as wrestlers - are they not "true fans" for going against popular opinion?

Whilst you will always get bandwagon jumpers on the Internet, there are some of us who genuinely can't stand Cena. True, only idiots will celebrate his injury but that doesn't apply to everyone who doesn't like him.

I appreciate you're a fan but you're going to have to accept that Cena polarisies fan opinion. as long as you know what side you are on and you're happy with your choice then why bother what others say?

Personally I am glad to see him off TV but I do understand that this is a tremendous blow to the WWE. but that's what you get when you put all your eggs into one basket.

-- Edited by Man In Black at 20:16, 2007-10-04

joe the baker · On The Casting Couch

Man In Black wrote:

Sorry I have to take issue with this "true fans" stuff. And if they genuinely can't stand the guy or are bored to tears with having him rammed down out throats each week that doesn't make them less of a fan.

I never mentioned anywhere about liking Cena or hating Cena. My point was TRUE wrestling fans RESPECT Cena for what he gives to the business; hard work,personal sacrifice, working through tremendous pain etc. So if a fan cant respect that attitude then yes that does make them less of a fan.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

joe the baker wrote:
I never mentioned anywhere about liking Cena or hating Cena. My point was TRUE wrestling fans RESPECT Cena for what he gives to the business; hard work,personal sacrifice, working through tremendous pain etc. So if a fan cant respect that attitude then yes that does make them less of a fan.

Don't get me wrong I understand your point totally but I assert that doesn't make them less of a fan, just ignorant. There is no such thing as a "true fan" nor can it be measured by your suggested criteria.

But the fact is that Cena is only doing what hundreds nay thousands of other guys do and go through on a dialy basis (and most for even less exposure and money). So - putting aside the idiots who are rejoicing in this misfortune - I hope you can understand why not everyone is shedding tears for Cena even if they do respect him as a performer.

joe the baker · On The Casting Couch

Thats a fair point. I expect most wrestling fans(I`ll leave out the true and just say fans") did not want to see Cena lose the belt his way. Yes I understand there are countless other guys out there who go through what Cena does without the money,fame etc. Cena is a main event guy whether some like it or not. One of the reasons he has been a main eventer for so long is the guys in the crowd who constantly "heckle"him; the Cena sucks chant, the F**k you Cena chant and so on. So of course the more they do this the more Cena supporters(mostly women and children) support their idol. All this creates one of the most incredible atmospheres in WWE history, which Vince can not get enough off. I personally know of dozens of people( self admitted Cena haters) who bought Summerslam just to see him lose the belt tho the odious Randy Orton.

At the end of the day everyone has their own opinion on Cena but the fact is he is the biggest draw both in PPVs and merchandise WWE have and for that reason alone when Cena returns he will be straight back into the main event again.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

joe the baker wrote:
At the end of the day everyone has their own opinion on Cena but the fact is he is the biggest draw both in PPVs and merchandise WWE have and for that reason alone when Cena returns he will be straight back into the main event again.

Sadly PPV buyrates have dropped over the past two years - most of which Cena has headlined - so while I agree with the Merchandise sales, holding Cena up as a PPV draw I would suggest is a little spurious at best.

Putting aside the whole "business is in a slump" excuse, as Cena is being pushed as the top guy and is being expected to draw then the facts need to be realised - pushing him continuously as champ has been counter productive. I'll agree that the booking hasn't helped and the lack of new stars being created is also a hinderance but the ennui with Cena on top has put off hardcore fans. Even during the last boom period Austin and Rock held the belt for a few months at a time.

And yes, I know there is no-one suitably qualified to take the belt at the moment and no I don't want Bionic H to hold it again either.

joe the baker · On The Casting Couch

Man In Black wrote:

And yes, I know there is no-one suitably qualified to take the belt at the moment and no I don't want Bionic H to hold it again either.

Exactly that has been a major problem over the last few years. The onlly guy who really made the transistion form midcarder to main eventer succesfully was Edge. There are a few possibilities at the moment with MVP and Matt Hardy. I believe double K needs serious a character review because at the moment he is incredibly stale.

Lava · A List Star

Double K? Well they have sorted it out I suppose with ***** as the new champ. (Starred out in case of spoliers) Cena could probably do with the rest anyway. We will probably have forgotten how much most actually dislike him by the time he returns and if they go for a SAVE_US.222 type return he could get a major pop when he does come back or else (And they probably will) they'll go for the Cena back on RAW in 3 Weeks routine...