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Bloody stupid name for an event, but anyway here's the line up...

Frank "The Answer" Edgar Vs. Spencer "The King" Fisher

Joe "J-Lau" Lauzon Vs. Jason Reinhardt

Tito "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Ortiz Vs. Rashad Evans

David "The Soul Assassin" Terrell Vs. Ed "Short Fuse" Herman

Akihiro Gono Vs. Tamden McCrory

Hector Lombard Vs. Karo "The Heat" Parisyan

Ryo "Piranha" Chonan Vs. Thiago "Pitbull" Alves

No news on what the main event is yet.  They wanted to do Bisping Hamill II for the MainEvent but Hamill's surgery will not be cleared so it's looking like Ortiz Evans II instead.  I think they need a title match on there, although which one?  The only option is to create an interim Lightweight title and put Kenny Florian in there against BJ Penn.  Then if Sean Sherk gets cleared for the drugs issu that sets up a supermatch...


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Well the main event has changed. Wow didn't see this coming... Rahshad Vs Bisping in the main event anyway here's the updated card.
 Michael Bisping vs. Rashad Evans Karo Parisyan vs. Hector Lombard Frankie Edgar vs. Spencer Fisher Ed Herman vs. Dave Terrell Thiago Alves vs. Houston Alexander Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt

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I think this is pretty much the final card:


-Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping
-Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
-Spencer Fisher vs. Frankie Edgar
-Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
-David Terrell vs. Ed Herman
-Thiago Alves vs. Chris Lytle
-Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory
-Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo
-Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt


Stand out bouts should include themain event, Houston ALexanders match and Joe Louzon's bout.  ALthough alot of people are complaining about the quality of the card, I think it's a great card.  SHould be a good event.

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Tito wants the winner of the main event at UFC 81...

When I lost to Chuck Liddell I took a step down. When I fought Rashad (Evans) I thought I won the fight. It was supposed to happen again, but it aint happening. I looked at a thing on UFC.tv and it said the lightheavyweights are Rashad vs (Michael) Bisbing and there were others that were contenders, but my picture wasnt on it. They are just trying to hold on and make sure the fighters dont get more powerful. I am going to work to get the right fights and that belt will be around my waist.

While in Edmonton, Canada, former UFC light heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz discusses his intentions for the future. The Huntington Beach Bad Boy was supposed to headline the the upcoming UFC 78: Validation card on November 17; however, talks broke down and Michael Bisping filled his spot against Sugar. Ortiz has one fight remaining on his current UFC contract.



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I wanna see Tito/Rashad again, but I don't know if it's worth it. the only reason that i would want to see it is b/c of the way the first fight ended. tito/bisping has no drawing ability for me.

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No drawing ability?? The Teacher Vs. The Student from TUF III? I think that has main event all over it!

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Ah well Bisping lost, but at least he was blown away by Evans as many were predicting. I was more upset about Alexander losing. Not a bad PPV though. Did need a title match to spruce it up probably.

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Here's Da Meltz's view on Validation...

Every pay-per-view is important for the Ultimate Fighting Championship, but Saturday nights UFC 78: Validation show being the companys first event in the New York City metropolitan area in six years, made it of even more significance.

When it was over, the key people the night was supposed to validate will have to wait for another night.

There was a good deal of negativity going into the show based on what people felt was not a pay-per-view caliber main event, Michael Bisping vs. Rashad Evans. UFC officials, and president Dana White, worked hard at defending it, with the sales pitch that it was the first time two winners of The Ultimate Fighter reality show were to face each other. Both were unbeaten fighters in a sport in which its difficult to run up any kind of a winning streak.

The flip side was Bispings last win, over Matt Hamill, was a decision that most felt went the wrong way. Bisping was the recipient of booing all weekend largely because of what was seen as the gift decision in a match viewed by a huge audience, since it was on the most-watched television show in company history. Evans last fight was a draw with Tito Ortiz. Hes seen as a talented wrestler with good hands, but often comes across as a fighter whose tools are sometimes better than what he shows.

The main event was criticized, particularly from people who felt New York deserved the top stars in the main event. But the company had its hands tied. A lightweight title fight was on the books, but the never-ending Sean Sherk steroid test appeal made that impossible to put together.

Tito Ortiz, who was slated to face Evans, pulled out due to an injury, or due to filming of the next season of Donald Trumps Apprentice, depending on what you want to believe.

The only viable alternative was the Matt Serra vs. Matt Hughes welterweight title fight, scheduled for Dec. 29, to be moved up. One on hand, that seemed like a natural with Serra being from Long Island. But Dana White didnt want to make the fight until all episodes of the reality show where the two are opposing coaches was finished. It was the right decision for pay-per-view, but it sacrificed having a genuine main event on this show.

The hottest fighter on the show going in was Houston Alexander, coming off two straight knocks in less than 2:00 combined time. As people became more familiar with him, the single father of six children, who gave up his kidney to his daughter seven years ago, he added being likeable to being the ferocious finisher that fans love to see. Its hard to explain how superstars get made. Some can win forever and never break through. Others can win some and lose some, and for whatever reason, the public sees them as stars.

Its usually a matter of timing, one of the keys being coming through at just the right time as people want to get behind them. You could sense when he came out, that this was Alexanders night. But then the fight started, and it couldnt have gone more wrong. He not only failed to unload early as in his previous wins, but when it got to the ground, opponent Thiago Silva came across as far superior and knocked him out in the first round. The air seemed to go out of the show at that point.

Most of the rest of the night also didnt come together. Evans split decision win was a close fight. Evans scored with takedowns. Bisping improved his takedown defense enough that Evans had to work very hard in getting him down. But Evans ultimately did, but Bisping gave him enough trouble that it ended up tiring Evans. Bisping connected with far more punches standing, but Evans, even tired, had the more powerful blows.


But when it was over, it didnt seem to help anyone. Evans may be 16-0-1, but he didnt leave people excited to see him headline against another star in UFCs marquee light heavyweight class. Bisping, who had become the companys European superstar, is coming off what most feel are consecutive losses. Its important to have a winning Bisping for the companys European expansion plans. Bisping does have a natural rematch with Hamill where hell get perhaps his final shot at keeping the superstar status the public gave him after winning the reality show.

One match after another that looked like they should be exciting wars didnt come through. In Frankie Edgar vs. Spencer Fisher, Edgar was simply too strong at wrestling and Fisher was taken out of his game. But Edgar never came close to finishing. In Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan, expected to be a show-stealing fight, Parisyan had a hand injury going in, and found his strategy of taking Chonan down to work, but again, at no point was the match in danger of finishing. Worse, because so many of the fights went long, there was no time left on the broadcast to air the best fight of the night, a prelim with Chris Lytle vs. Thiago Alves. But while the action was great for two rounds, it was a disappointment as far as the finish, due to Lytle having a dangerous cut on his eye lid and it was stopped.

UFC has had worse major shows. Last years show in July headlined by Ken Shamrock vs. Tito Ortiz and Andrei Arlovksi vs. Tim Sylvia was at the time the most viewed company show in history, and was a disaster. And the company grew stronger from there. But overall, Saturday was a night people would just as soon forget.


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