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OK, I've seen a tournament like this on other sites, and I decided to bring it here. But I want ours to be original. Give me your nominations.

I will try to handle this, and I think that we are going to have a 16-band tournament. I'll try to set up the bracket with seeds and such by the end of the weekend. Then hopefully we can start voting by next week. Let me know if you are interested.

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OK, there are a few bands that are locks to be in the pool:

The Beatles
Rolling Stones
Nirvana
Def Leppard
Journey


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The first two are definite locks but I'd question the others even though I love Leppard.

Besides Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Queen are a MUST for any poll like this.

I'd also nominate:

The Who
Deep Purple
Iron Maiden
Kiss
Aerosmith
The Doors
Sex Pistols (hey if Nirvana are in there...)
U2

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I would like to nominate;

Black Sabbath
Metallica
Red Hot Chili Peppers
REM

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Fleetwood Mac anyone?

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Metallica
Megadeth
Led Zeppelin
Scorpions
Pink Floyd

Definate inductions

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the greatst band of all time Queen

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I think it would be best to break it down into heats. like a metal heat, a punk heat, a pop heat e.t.c, e.t.c. what do ya'll think?

Pick like 6 per heat and whittle them down to one in each heat then pit the heats against each other.

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Good idea SOD, but the problem is whether there are enough bands for each genre.

I only proffered the Sex Pistols because I was thinking objectively and not just listing my favourites. Realistically are there 6 truly great HOF worthy punk bands? Only The Clash, The Stranglers and The Damned come to mind and musically they all left their punk roots behind fairly quickly.

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Does this have to be rock metal? Or is it over all genres? Because there's a whole bunch of bands that are missing if thats the case.

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OK, great feedback guys. I think that here's what we'll do. We'll break it down into six categories and have 8 bands in each. That would give us a 48-band tournament (or there abouts, depending on the fan fave category....read on). We'll do it the only way that is fair: by genre. OK, the six genres (and these are open to interpretation) are:

Pop/Punk (we should be able to find 8 bands/artists for that)
Metal (SoD should help here)
General Rock (for bands that dont fit the metal category)
Classic (a place where we could put classic rock bands so that they don't take up space in the general rock bracket...there could also be others in this category as well).
Other (These could be "wild cards" that didnt make other categories or just random bands that dont fit anywhere else)
Fan Faves (This would be bands that you think won't be in the field but you would like to see. Everybody gets a pick in this category, and it doesn't matter how many bands there are...we'll make it work. PM your picks to me by Monday, as that will be when I put together a tentative bracket for the tournament).

Remeber, there is no way that everybody will be completely happy with this tournament. I just wanted to make it as great and interesting as possible, so I opened it up to suggestions. There is no way that we will get every band that deserves to be in here, but we just to have to make sure that we get the major ones. Remeber, this is for fun.

Thoughts?

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-- Edited by David McKinney at 00:26, 2007-12-01

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By the way, if we are doing it this way, here are the current bands/artists in each category:

Punk/Pop
Green Day
Michael Jackson
Prince
Sex Pistols
The Clash
The Stranglers
The Damned
The Ramones

Metal
Metallica
Megadeth
Led Zeppelin

Rock
Nirvana
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Aerosmith
Def Leppard
U2

Classic
The Beatles
Rolling Stones
Journey
Pink Floyd
Queen
Fleetwood Mac

Other
(will be filled with spill-over from other categories or to balance bracket)

Fan Faves
The Killers (David McKinney)

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in addition to the metal you should add, Black Sabbath, Motley Crue, Scorpions, Ac/Dc and Pantera

Eric Clapton should be in 'other'

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Oi Zeppelin weren't metal! They were like Floyd and the Beatles - they transcended genres but Rock is the best category for them.

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That's Disambiguation right there. Whilst Zeppelin weren't metal they were Pioneers of the Genre that influanced many a Metal and Hard Rock band of today.

I think we should take these heats one at a time and do this properly by doing one a week including a You Tube video of the band's more famous song so people can make an informed choice.

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Again, these are some great suggestions.

If you haven't already figured this out, we are switching this from Greatest Band of All-Time to Greatest Music Act of All-Time. I am also going to group some people together. For instance, one of the choices in the Pop/Punk category will be Michael/Jackson 5. Also, in the metal category, well will have Ozzy/Black Sabbath.

Also, don't forget to give me more suggestions as well as your picks for the Fan Fave category. We really need more bands in that category, as we only have two so far.

After much thought, I have decided to put Led Zeppelin in the metal category. I don't think that they fit in that category, but it's one of the weakest and it's hard to argue that they are NOT metal.

I have also taken SoD's suggestion into account, and we will do the voting this way. I will post the contestants in one category with a video of one of their more famous songs. You will then have a week to vote for each matchup in that category.

I will try to get a tentative list up by 5 pm tomorrow (which is somewhere around midnight in the UK), but that list is not final. You can still make suggestions, but you will have to give me a reason for your suggestion as well as tell me who you would take out. But that's tomorrow. Right now I need your picks for the Fan Fave category and more suggestions in each category.

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Zeppelin may have influenced many hard rock and metal bands but they weren't metal just as Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf who influenced Zeppelin were not rock.

My fan fave choice is obviously KISS.

If you are going to include solo artists then for me the shoe ins are Elvis, Cliff Richard, Neil Young, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Muddy Waters, Bob Dylan and BB King.

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How about Pussycat Dolls, Girls Aloud, Boyzone, Westlife, Take That and not forgetting Morning Musume?

Seriously has anyone mentioned Queen? I see Aerosmith already listed.

Frank Sinatra has to be in the individuals list. Also Sammy Davis Jr, Lionel Richie/The Commodores and Prince aka Symbol aka The Artist Formally Known as....




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Don't worry Eve, Queen is safely in the bracket. So I am assuming that your pick for Fan Faves is Pussycat Dolls? If this is not your pick, then please let me know.

I also have another quick update. The "Other" category has now become the place where we will have 2 separate categories. There will be 8 bands that didn't make it in the other categories as well as 8 individual artists. That means that this is the only "heat" with 16 choices. Anyway, I know that this bracket is very confusing, but I hope that I will make it clear when I post the initial brackets tomorrow. Keep the suggestions coming!!1

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Apart from Girls Aloud and Westlife i agree with Eve. Althouh I would add Backstreet boys and the Spice Girls... Also The Osmonds..

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I thoght this was supposed to be a credible poll?

Dump Pondlife, Gayzone, Spice Whores all the other manufactured marketing gimmicks and TAFKA Pratt and replace them all with ABBA then we're sorted.

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Wow...this has become more of a chore than it was supposed to be. I really want to give every band/act a chance, but there are just some that I don't think have a legitimate shot at even winning a first round matchup. I know that the bracket isn't going to be perfect, but I am going to make sure that I get all of the major ones in there. I hope that everybody is at least happy with my bracket.

By the way, that will be posted tomorrow. Don't forget to get your picks for Fan Faves into me. We only have four bands in that category right now, and I want to get at least eight.

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Actually I was only joking about those first few upto and including Morning Musume.

But all the ones after that I was serious about.

I know PCD wouldn't stand a chance with you lot, so Queen would be my Fan Fave, although PCD was tempting if only to annoy MiB if they made it through the rounds lol.

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Chuck Paramore in the Fan Favorates for my pick :)

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Some possible additions to your brackets;

Pop/Punk - The Offspring
Rock - Rage Against The Machine
Fan Favourite - Rammstein

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OK, here is a tentative lineup for the tournament. It is still not official, but changes can only be made if your suggestion comes with a legitimate and persuasive reason. Each of the heats seedings will be determined by a random draw, and the final six pairings will also be determined via the same method. So, without further ado:

Pop/Punk
Beach Boys
Boyz II Men
The Clash
Green Day
Jackson 5/Michael Jackson
The Offspring
The Ramones
Sex Pistols

Metal
AC/DC
Black Sabbath/Ozzy Osbourne
Guns N Roses
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Led Zeppelin (don't kill me)
Megadeath
Metallica

Rock
Aerosmith
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
Def Leppard
Grateful Dead
Nirvana
Rage Against the Machine
Red Hot Chili Peppers
U2

Classic
The Beatles
The BeeGees
The Eagles
Fleetwood Mac
Journey
Pink Floyd
The Rolling Stones
The Who

Other (2 Categories)
Individual
Johnny Cash
Ray Charles
Eric Clapton
Bob Dylan
Elvis
Jimi Hendrix
Madonna
Prince

Wild Cards (rank your top 5; you may not vote for more than 2 from one category) Orange = Pop/Punk Blue = Metal Purple = Rock/Classic Green = Individuals

The Damned
The Osmonds
Spice Girls
The Stranglers
Take That
Motley Crue
Motorhead
Pantera
The Scorpions
Slayer

Van Halen
The Allman Brothers
Cream
The Doors
Jefferson Airplane
Sammy Davis Jr.
Lionel Richie
Frank Sinatra

Rod Stewart
Stevie Wonder


Fan Favorites (non-negotiable)
Alter Bridge (Darth Mattitude)
The Killers (David McKinney)
KISS (Man in Black)
Chuck Paramore (Symphony of Destruction)
Queen (NymVette)
Rammstein (Doctor of Desire)

*NOTE: The Fan Favorite category IS NOT locked; please PM me your picks for this category.

You have 24 hours to get in any last minute suggestions. The tournament will be finalized tomorrow, and voting for the first round will begin in the Pop/Rock category.



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I suppose it's too late to add blues, jazz and country categories but I'm probably the only one who listens to them! wink.gif

Okay...well, my wild card picks are:


Motorhead
Van Halen
Cream
The Doors
Frank Sinatra





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I listen to all of those, but I gave you all a chance to add anyone that you want in there. If you have a group that you would like to throw them in there as a Wild Card, then by all means, do it.

So I'm assuming that you have your picks in order, MiB, as the top 8 Wild Cards will be determined based on a points system. Let me know if this is not the case.

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Okay I'll make a substitution and this is my Wild Card picks in order:

1. Stevie Ray Vaughan
2. Frank Sinatra
3. Van Halen
4. Cream
5. The Doors

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I also forgot T.A.T.U.

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You're determined to ruin this poll aren't you Eve?

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I am just putting forward my opinion of music, aren't we all allowed an opinion?

P.S. where did you get all these nice pictures you are using as smilies?


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Yes you are but some opinions are best kept to oneself!

I nicked the smilies from an Anime forum.

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Haha...go ahead an vote for T.A.T.U. if you would like, Eve. Like I said, everybody has 5 wild card picks. I would like you to vote for the ones that I have up there, but it is your choice. The 8 wild cards will be decided based on a points system, so I need to have at least 8 bands/acts voted for. We will have the wild card voting continue through the first few rounds of voting, so don't feel pressured to get your picks in now. A final list should be up sometime today or early East Coast time tomorrow.

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Ok, here are my 5 Wild Card picks (in order)

1. Motorhead
2. Slayer
3. The Doors
4. The Stranglers
5. The Damned



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my wild cards.

1. Frank Sinatra
2. Sammy Davis Jr.
3. T.A.T.U.
4. Take That
5. Van Halen




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OK, here are the first round matchups in the Pop/Punk Heat (these were determined via random draw, the seedings are just to keep the matchups fair and straight):

(1)The Ramones vs. (8)Boyz II Men
(4)Sex Pistols vs. (5)Beach Boys
(3)The Offspring vs. (6)Jackson 5/Michael Jackson
(2)Green Day vs. (7)The Clash

And here are notable videos from each contestant:

The Ramones-I Wanna Be Sedated
[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=wMD7Ezp3gWc]

Boys II Men-End of the Road
[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=XZcG0NBMcDA]

Sex Pistols-My Way
[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=WIXg9KUiy00]

Beach Boys-Wouldn't it be Nice
[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=L--cqAI3IUI]

The Offspring-Can't Repeat
[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=aoDulIbkMkk]

Michael Jackson-Thriller
[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=AtyJbIOZjS8]

Green Day-Minority
[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=VW_H7hF8rYI]

The Clash-Should I Stay or Should I Go?
[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=V1Gn0e7kvTA]

-- Edited by David McKinney at 00:39, 2007-12-05

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Some interesting pairs there Dave! Here are my votes;

(1)The Ramones vs. (8)Boyz II Men
(4)Sex Pistols vs. (5)Beach Boys
(3)The Offspring vs. (6)Jackson 5/Michael Jackson
(2)Green Day vs. (7)The Clash

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Not meaning to be picky but "My Way" wasn't actually a Sex Pistols song it was just Sid Vicious as a solo effort.

(1)The Ramones vs. (8)Boyz II Men
(4)Sex Pistols vs. (5)Beach Boys
(3)The Offspring vs. (6)Jackson 5/Michael Jackson
(2)Green Day vs. (7)The Clash

Nice groupings though :)

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(1)The Ramones vs. (8)Boyz II Men
(4)Sex Pistols vs. (5)Beach Boys
(3)The Offspring vs. (6)Jackson 5/Michael Jackson
(2)Green Day vs. (7)The Clash

and my Wild Cards are:

Take That
Motley Crue
Van Halen
The Doors
Stevie Wonder


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Sorry about that MiB, but the Sex Pistols videos on YouTube are scarce for some reason. And don't worry: these matchups are complete random. I didn't cherry pick them, but I did think that they were interesting as I was posting them.

OK, my votes:

(1)The Ramones vs. (8)Boyz II Men
(4)Sex Pistols vs. (5)Beach Boys
(3)The Offspring vs. (6)Jackson 5/Michael Jackson
(2)Green Day vs. (7)The Clash

By the way, you have until next TUESDAY (Dec. 11) to vote. Until then, enjoy the videos. The classic Beach Boys was a bit of a find, in my opinion.

-- Edited by David McKinney at 08:49, 2007-12-05

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You meant to apologise to SOD not me. I think the stress of this game is getting to you already! wink.gif

Anyway my picks:

(1)The Ramones vs. (8)Boyz II Men (How did they get in?)
(4)Sex Pistols vs. (5)Beach Boys
(3)The Offspring vs. (6)Jackson 5/Michael Jackson
(2)Green Day vs. (7)The Clash

Ad here are the Pistols with the classic Pretty Vacant:




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Haha...what stress? Anyway, thanks for that Sex Pistols video.

Boyz II Men are actually a legitimate entry...it is a Pop/Punk category. I don't expect them to win, but I just thought I'd throw them in there.

Here are the leaders for the Wild Card (top 8 in points make it into the bracket):

1-Frank Sinatra (9 points)
2-Van Halen (8 points)
3-Take That (5 points)
  -Motorhead (5 points)
  -The Doors (5 points)
  -Stevie Wonder (5 points)
  -Stevie Ray Vaughan (5 points)
8-Slayer (4 points)
  -Sammy Davis Jr (4 points)
10-TATU (3 points)
11-The Stranglers (2 points)
  -Motley Crue (2 points)
  -Cream (2 points)
14-The Damned (1 point)

UPDATE: You have until next TUESDAY (Dec. 10) to vote for your Wild Cards. Either post them here or send them in a PM to me (please rank your picks 1-5).


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(1)The Ramones vs. (8)Boyz II Men
(4)Sex Pistols vs. (5)Beach Boys
(3)The Offspring vs. (6)Jackson 5/Michael Jackson
(2)Green Day vs. (7)The Clash

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Almost forgot to announce my Wild Cards:

1-Stevie Wonder
2-Cream
3-Jefferson Airplane
4-Slayer
5-The Damned

Don't forget to PM me your picks for the Fan Fave category!

Voting for the Pop/Punk heat is still open! You have 5 more days!!

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Man In Black wrote:

I suppose it's too late to add blues, jazz and country categories but I'm probably the only one who listens to them! wink.gif

Okay...well, my wild card picks are:


Motorhead
Van Halen
Cream
The Doors
Frank Sinatra








I listen to Blues, Country and Classical cheeky lol

and Dave it's "Paramore" not "Chuck Paramore" lol Chuck is english slang for put (Sorry I keep forgetting you're american)

I think we need some Cream/The yardbirds/Eric Clapton in there somewhere

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I have to admit I thought Chuck Paramore was the artist's name....

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Lol, na they're Pop Punk. Like a modern day Blink 182 but with a bird singer

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I appreciate all music genres, well apart from Reggae and Junglist types anyway.

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It should be intresting to see who comes out on top, but i feel there are only really 3 contenders

1. Beatles
2. Queen
3. Rolling Stones

Anybody else winning would just have to be a fixed vote haha.



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