Greatest Band of All-Time

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

RE: Greatest Band of All-Time

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Dear oh dear...

Elvis vs. Madonna - No contest whatsoever
Jimi Hendrix vs. Ray Charles - Tough but Jimi for me
Johnny Cash vs. Eric Clapton - Real tough but I went for Eric cos I'm such a mark for Cream and the Blues Breakers album he did
Bob Dylan vs. Prince - Not a fan of either but I hate Prince so...

NymVette · Movie Producer

Elvis vs. Madonna
Jimi Hendrix vs. Ray Charles
Johnny Cash vs. Eric Clapton
Bob Dylan vs. Prince

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

Elvis vs. Madonna
Jimi Hendrix vs. Ray Charles
Johnny Cash vs. Eric Clapton
Bob Dylan vs. Prince

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

Shouldn't there be a Rap/Hip-Hop round as well?

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

I tried to include them in the Pop/Punk, Individual, and Wild Card Brackets, but none of them made the cut. The closest one was Eminem, who was number 9 in the Individual bracket. I would have liked to see him face Elvis, however. Run DMC was also close. Don't worry, SoD. They were considered.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

I'm glad rap isn't there- rap sucks!

DoctorOfDesire · 500 Club Member

Elvis vs. Madonna (Maddy may be the queen of pop, but Elvis is The King!)
Jimi Hendrix vs. Ray Charles
Johnny Cash vs. Eric Clapton ('Hurt' is brilliant, but Eric gets it overall for me)
Bob Dylan vs. Prince (Can't stand the little freak!)

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Celina's picks:

Elvis vs. Madonna
Jimi Hendrix vs. Ray Charles
Johnny Cash vs. Eric Clapton
Bob Dylan vs. Prince

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Individual Bracket: First Round Results

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Greatest Band of All-Time

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

Stevie Wonder vs. Foo Fighters
Cream vs. Slayer
Van Halen vs. The Doors (This was a bastard because I LOVE both bands)
Frank Sinatra vs. Motorhead

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Tough round. Is this the first Wild Card round? I don't notice any of my picks here...

Stevie Wonder vs. Foo Fighters - Tough as I'm not a huge fan of either
Cream vs. Slayer - No contest but I like both
Van Halen vs. The Doors - I think Van Halen just tip it but both band's are great
Frank Sinatra vs. Motorhead - since I own Motorhead CDs and not Frankie ..

tengen · On The Casting Couch

Stevie Wonder vs. Foo Fighters
Cream vs. Slayer
Van Halen vs. The Doors
Frank Sinatra vs. Motorhead

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Stevie Wonder vs. Foo Fighters (this is maybe a bit of projection down the road)
Cream vs. Slayer (no contest. easiest pick so far besides The Beatles)
Van Halen vs. The Doors (not a huge fan of eitehr, but Van Halen is more talented)
Frank Sinatra vs. Motorhead (Although I smell an upset...)

NymVette · Movie Producer

Stevie Wonder vs. Foo Fighters
Cream vs. Slayer (no vote)
Van Halen vs. The Doors
Frank Sinatra vs. Motorhead

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Celina's picks:

Stevie Wonder vs. Foo Fighters
Cream vs. Slayer
Van Halen vs. The Doors
Frank Sinatra vs. Motorhead (no vote)

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Foo Fighters def. Stevie Wonder (5-1)
Slayer def. Cream (3-2)
Van Halen def. The Doors (4-2)
Frank Sinatra def. Motorhead (3-2)

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Alrighty, time for the fan favorite round:

The Killers vs. Paramore
Alter Bridge vs. Rammstein

First round byes: KISS, Queen

The vids:

The Killers-When You Were Young

The best video of 2006, in my humble opinion. Wow! A band that makes videos that match the lyrics of the song. Go figure.

Paramore-Misery Business

Might be a quality contender in a few years.

Alter Bridge-Open Your Eyes

Muuuuuuuuuuuuch better without Scott Stapp.

Rammstein-Amerika

Doesn't really apply to most of you, though.

And, just because:

KISS-Love Gun

They have some freaky ass fans, but they are loyal nonetheless.

Queen-Bohemian Rhapsody

Of freakin course!

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

My picks:

The Killers vs. Paramore
Alter Bridge vs. Rammstein

-- Edited by David McKinney at 23:20, 2008-01-16

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

The Killers vs. Paramore
Alter Bridge vs. Rammstein

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Oh, DM! My heart! How could you pick against The Killers? And a rookie band over them at that! I might cry...

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

The Killers vs. Paramore
Alter Bridge vs. Rammstein

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

David McKinney wrote:

Oh, DM! My heart! How could you pick against The Killers? And a rookie band over them at that! I might cry...

Ermmm, because I don't like the Killers?

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Darth Mattitude wrote:

David McKinney wrote:

Oh, DM! My heart! How could you pick against The Killers? And a rookie band over them at that! I might cry...

Ermmm, because I don't like the Killers?

Well, I guess that makes sense.

DoctorOfDesire · 500 Club Member

The Killers vs. Paramore
Alter Bridge vs. Rammstein (I'm guessing this will be their only vote!)

Man In Black · Anime Mod

I'll have to find a few minutes to play those videos because the only group I've heard is Alter Bridge (Metalignus).

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

anybody else want to vote before we move on?

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Okay, I've had a listen to all the videos and they're all pretty awful but I'll vote anyway...

The Killers vs. Paramore
Alter Bridge vs. Rammstein

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

Paramore by a Landslide!!! Woot!!! lol

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Yes but mine were de facto votes..

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

You HAVE to be kidding me! A brand new band with one hit beats an established band based in the UK? What are you guys thinking?

MiB mentioned it in the guitarist awards, and I think I'll reiterate it here.

WE ARE NOT VOTING FOR OUR FAVORITES. PLEASE VOTE FOR THE BAND THAT YOU THINK IS GREATER, MORE ESTABLISHED, ETC. THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T LIKE A BAND SHOULDN'T EVEN BE MENTIONED AT ALL. PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

In this instance I feel that rule should be relaxed a little* because it's a "fan favourite" choice but I agree wholeheartedly with the other rounds that should apply. However that really should have been established more strictly at the beginning otherwise I wouldn't have vote Motorhead over Sinatra!

* For people like me who have not heard of an act or don't like that kind of music it's hard to make an objective vote, especially on one track.

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Point taken. And I agree with you here. But it is called "Greatest Band of All-Time." I thought the title would give the idea away.

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

Well, that's shit because Obviously your Personal Favorate is going to be the one you're going to vote for.

For instance by your "Rules" if Queen were to go up against Racer X or Steve Vai then Racer X or Steve Vai would win due to the Technique of the playing of Vai and Gilbert.

Edit :-

As for the "Established" thing that's not the way it works otherwise it wouldn't be a "Greatest band thread" it would be a "Most Established band thread" now wouldn't it.

Greatest means the band that the people prefer. That could be a fully established band or it could be a bunch of new comers. Point is the people would be the ones who picked them for their individual Attributes.

Thanks for Listening wink

-- Edited by Symphony Of Destruction at 17:58, 2008-01-27

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Symphony Of Destruction wrote:
For instance by your "Rules" if Queen were to go up against Racer X or Steve Vai then Racer X or Steve Vai would win due to the Technique of the playing of Vai and Gilbert.

Edit :-

As for the "Established" thing that's not the way it works otherwise it wouldn't be a "Greatest band thread" it would be a "Most Established band thread" now wouldn't it.

Greatest means the band that the people prefer. That could be a fully established band or it could be a bunch of new comers. Point is the people would be the ones who picked them for their individual Attributes.

Thanks for Listening

Point No 1 - Just because Gilbert and Vai are techinical proficient players does not make their bands better than the overall package of Queen. And Brian May owns both hose guys. Speed isn't everything you know!

Point No 2 - Greatest and favourite are two different things. Anyone who votes Slipknot over The Beatles as greatest band just becasue they prefer Slipknot wants shooting.

I understand that David wants us to taken an objective approach to this and I agree; but the fan favourites is different because those were subjective nominations and not objective ones.

Thanks for reading!

-- Edited by Man In Black at 20:14, 2008-01-27

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

I see where your coming from MiB but the whole premice of "Greatest Band" is a personal thing. Like one man's Eddie Van Halen is another Man's Aqua.

I guess what I'm getting at is someone's vote should be their own personal preferance and not be held down by rules and regulations and the like. Because After all surely Greatness (Like Beauty) is in the eye of the beholder.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Yes but in some instances there comes a time when one needs to think objectively.

Perhaps if the rules had been more clearly defined to begin with then the voting may be different. Unfortunately I believe that we have all been voting for our own favourites which is the usual route to take in these polls unless stressed otherwise.

A poll based on facts (record sales, influence, longevity, etc) over personal tastes would be equally interesting to see.

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

OK sorry, but I put this tournament on hiatus for awhile after the first round so that I could think of something to jazz it up a little bit. As we stand right now, there are 28 bands left in this tournament. What I've decided is that we will re-seed the tournament (based on rankings done by yours truly) and add four eliminated bands from the first round. The first four members to suggest an eliminated band will have their band placed back in the pool.

I'll do a little more explaining, but as it stands right now, we are set for a relaunch of the tourney on Monday. Anyway, here are the 28 bands/acts currently alive in the pool:

The Ramones, Beach Boys, Michael Jackson/Jackson 5, The Clash
Metallica, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath
Aerosmith, U2, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nirvana
The Beatles, The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Rolling Stones
Elvis, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton/Cream (change), Prince
Foo Fighters, Slayer, Van Halen, Frank Sinatra
Paramore, KISS, Alter Bridge, Queen

Here are the bands eligible for re-entry into the tournament:

Boyz II Men, Sex Pistols, The Offspring, Green Day
Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Megadeth, Guns N' Roses
Def Leppard, Bruce Springsteen/E Street Band, Grateful Dead, Rage Against the Machine
BeeGees, The Who, Journey, Pink Floyd
Madonna, Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, Bob Dylan
Stevie Wonder, The Doors, Motorhead
The Killers, Rammstein

Some excellent choices there for re-entry. I guess it depends on who gets here first to claim dibs on a nomination.

Anyway, let me just stress something right now. This is a greatest band of all-time thread. Please don't vote for your favorites. If you don't have a good enough opinion (don't know the bands), please don't vote. Try to be as fair as possible. Thank you.

DoctorOfDesire · 500 Club Member

Could we have Iron Maiden back in please Mr McKinney!

-- Edited by DoctorOfDesire at 00:16, 2008-02-02

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Pink Floyd without question!

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

Megadeth Clearly :)

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

I was going to let you guys bash it out for the re-entrys, but I think that Journey is the perfect 4th candidate. Anybody disagree?

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Yup. No offence but while they were huge in the US, they did nothing over here where only hard rock fans would know them. Escape only made no 32 on the UK album charts while Who's Crying Now made no 46 and was their highest charting single.

-- Edited by Man In Black at 19:31, 2008-02-03

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

Fair enough. How about GNR, Springsteen or The Who? I think it has to be one of those 3.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

I'd say The Who , The Doors, Johnny Cash or Bob Dylan would be the main contenders with Ray Charles, Springsteen and Madonna as outside contenders.

-- Edited by Man In Black at 19:22, 2008-02-03

Symphony Of Destruction · Metal Mod

Journey are awesome. I listen to them when I feel Blue and need cheering up. "Dont Stop Believing" is like one of my top 50 of all time.

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

I'm a huge Journey fan as well. "Don't Stop Believin" is actually my favorite 80s song.

But I think we're going to go with The Who. I'll have another post in this thread later to let you all know what's going on. Don't have time now, though. Class!

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

As I get a suggestion Im going for Stevie Wonder

David McKinney · 500 Club Member

OK then Stevie Wonder it is.

I know that I said I'd have the next round up by Monday, but I've been sick and this is the first day that I've felt like getting online to do something other than check my email. Anyway, the matchups for the next round are set. Obviously, they are ranked. No, they are not perfect rankings. But I tried to make the best matchups as well as put the best bands in the best position to advance. Here they are:

The Beatles vs. Paramore
Queen vs. Alter Bridge
Led Zeppelin vs. Slayer
KISS vs. The Clash
Metallica vs. Stevie Wonder
Rolling Stones vs. Megadeth
Aerosmith vs. Iron Maiden
Elvis vs. Pink Floyd
Nirvana vs. Frank Sinatra
The Eagles vs. Beach Boys
Eric Clapton/Cream vs. Jackson 5/Michael Jackson
Fleetwood Mac vs. U2
AC/DC vs. Black Sabbath/Ozzy Osbourne
Red Hot Chili Peppers vs. Jimi Hendrix
Van Halen vs. Prince
Foo Fighters vs. The Ramones

There is a bracket, and I'll keep track of that as we go along. For this first round, we will have 4 voting sessions, each consisting of 4 matchups (8 bands). I'll announce the first 4 matchups in the next post.