Is it me or are Hollywood writers really losing their imaginations. Enough remakes I say!
Prequels and sequels are acceptable in some forms (TDK being the most obvious example atm) but not straight up remakes of old films that are classics that should be left alone
-- Edited by 1chiban at 20:16, 2008-07-28
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Rather than start more threads bemoaning the current plethora of pointless Hollywood remakes, I think that oputside of special circumstances, we should stick them all in this thread.
Starting with this lot:
Brideshead Revisited Sunset Boulevard The Birds The Day The Earth Stood Still The Incredible Shrinking Man
Obviously the last two would no doubt benefit from the improvement in SFX but the rest really need tobe left alone. In fact, I can't believe someone thought it was a good idea to remake Sunset Boulevard. Or maybe I can....
i saw the trailer to "the day the earth stood still" and it looks very very good, the orginal was a B movie to start with so a budget and A list cast can only make this film worth while but im sure our house expert (DM) will give us the gen.
hollywood can do remakes because its cheaper to find an old script and just get the director to adapt it then pay a team of script writers to create new works.
Guillermo del Toro is set to produce another film that sees a young girl, with a parent remarrying, encounter strange and sinister monsters. However in this tale the monsters live underneath her stairs, so there are a few differences from previous films.
The film is actually a remake of the television film Don't Be Afraid of the Dark which has received cult status after it's airing in 1973.
Guillermo del Toro and Miramax are remaking the film with Del Toro adapting Nigel McKeand's original screenplay with his writing partner from Mimic, Matthew Robbins.
According to The Hollywood Reporter the story follows a young girl, sent to live with her father and his new girlfriend, who discovers sinister creatures that live underneath the stairs. They already warn us that we can expect an "upscale creature feature" - oh I hate terms like those - along the same lines as Pan's Labyrinth (Filmstalker review).
However del Toro will not be directing, it will be Troy Nixey making his debut as director, Nixey previously wrote and directed a short film as well as illustrating the Batman and Matrix comics and writing and illustrating for Dark Horse Comics.
It's another director that del Toro is building up and pulling to the fore, and Nixey sounds like an interesting choice to helm a film. However is this just more of the same from del Toro with an excuse to create more monsters?
Another one for you although I have to admit it looks pretty good:
The trailer for the much talked about remake of the 1940's The Wolf Man has made it online and it's right here for you to see.
Benicio Del Toro stars as Lawrence Talbot, a man who returns to his ancestral home and is bitten by a werewolf, thus making him a werewolf too. The film also stars Emily Blunt, Anthony Hopkins, Hugo Weaving and Geraldine Chaplin.
The trailer looks pretty damn good, and we are treated to some shots of the werewolf itself, looking rather large and pretty scary. I love the shot of it running through the crowd of people in what looks like the middle of a party.
Plus there's the market there. If a film was a success before, as much as it gets panned or criticised, most original fans will go and see it (though most will deny it). Thus guaranteed income.
Originally made in the 1940's, Oscar Wilde's only novel The Portrait of Dorian Gray is being primed for another retelling, says Filmstalker:
Now heres an interesting casting story, Ben Barnes has been pinned to play the lead alongside Colin Firth in a film based on Oscar Wildes classic story The Picture of Dorian Gray.
The story, for those of you who dont know Wilde or havent seen The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, follows Dorian Gray, a man who has his portrait painted, and while he advances in years he doesnt age but the painting does.
Its a great story, and Dorian Grey was one of the characters in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, a film I still believe doesnt deserve all the bad press it gets. Here's a full outline of the story from Wikipedia:
The novel tells of a young man named Dorian Gray, the subject of a painting by artist Basil Hallward. Basil is greatly impressed by Dorian's physical beauty and becomes strongly infatuated with him, believing that his beauty is responsible for a new mode in his art. Talking in Basil's garden, Dorian meets Lord Henry Wotton, a friend of Basil's, and becomes enthralled by Lord Henry's world view. Espousing a new kind of hedonism, Lord Henry suggests that the only thing worth pursuing in life is beauty, and the fulfilment of the senses. Realising that one day his beauty will fade, Dorian cries out, wishing that the portrait Basil has painted of him would age rather than himself. Dorian's wish is fulfilled, subsequently plunging him into a series of debauched acts. The portrait serves as a reminder of the effect each act has upon his soul, with each sin being displayed as a disfigurement of his form, or through a sign of aging.
Ben Barnes is playing Gray, whom you'll know is playing Prince Caspian in The Chronicles of Narnia films Prince Caspian and The Voyage of the Dawn Treader. Colin Firth is to play Lord Henry Wotton, an aristocrat who corrupts Gray
Oliver Parker is directing Dorian Gray and the word from the Hollywood Reporter is that its going to turn out to be a dark and visceral horror story sounds perfect to me.
Parker previously directed St. Trinian's, which perhaps isn't such a great advertisement for his talent, however he did also direct The Private Life of Samuel Pepys and The Importance of Being Earnest.
What you also have to take into cond=sideration is there has been various scriptwriters strikes of late and a redo is cheap as there is no need for script writing at any great length.
Oh and this ones been mooted for ages. I wasn't a big fan of the original to be honest, so this will slip off my radar for sure
DeNiro vs Gibson as Hollywood remakes Edge Of Darkness:
Robert De Niro and Mel Gibson, now that sounds like a good on screen combination that doesn't rely on the usual usual pairings of talent. What's more is that they are starring in the adaptation of the successful British television mini-series Edge of Darkness.
What's more is that William Monahan wrote the adaptation, the man who successfully adapted Infernal Affairs to The Departed, and the film will be directed by Martin Campbell.
The story will see Mel Gibson playing Thomas Craven who is a homicide detective for the Boston Police Department and a single father. One day his twenty-four year old daughter is murdered right outside his front door.
So he starts investigating the murder, assuming that he was the target, however it starts to seem that she was the intended target and he discovers that his daughter led a secret life behind his back, and the murder reveals a corporate cover-up that stretches as far as the government.
Robert De Niro will play an operative who is sent in to try and clean up the evidence and stop the investigation in its tracks.
Not only is the great writing talent of William Monahan on the film but Martin Campbell is directing, and he's not just known for Casino Royale, oh no, he's also the director of the original BBC miniseries. Interestingly Campbell is also set to direct 36, the remake of the excellent 36 Quai des Orfèvres, as well as The Birds remake!
Oh, and if anyone is worried about that Screen Actors Guild strike that has never happened yet and just keeps getting threatened, well Variety tells us that the film has received a special note from SAG to say they won't strike on the film...if they're going to strike on any!
This film sounds a powerful one from the go get, after all Edge of Darkness was a fantastic series and with the original director and a cracking writer on board this adaptation could deliver a big punch. Then Gibson and De Niro? Sounds cracking to me.
Right thread rule ammendments. As soon as more involved news of the movie comes to light i.e. release dates, posters, stills, news updates etc. It gets moved out of here and into it's own thread...
IGN has the first poster for the remake of Friday The 13th. Click the small version below to see it bigger.
As you will surely have noticed, that's Jason there in the familiar hockey mask, despite the fact that the original movie's killer was Mrs Voorhees. That's because this film will be taking a revisionist look at the start of the story, actually having more in common with Friday The 13th Part 2. The audience will expect Jason, so they get Jason.
Friday The 13th is directed by Marcus Nispel, who did a pretty solid job with his update of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which tried to be something very different to Tobe Hooper's original. That's what a remake should do, take a new angle on a story, and hopefully bodes well for this movie.
Huge rumour here, but Natalie Portman could be leading the remake of Dario Argento's Suspiria.
It is a huge rumour, and I'm going to repeat that a few times so you realise that, however the remake of the film isn't a surprise, we've been hearing about it since early 2006.
The story originally appeared in 2006, but back in May last year I carried the outline of the remake idea for Dario Argento's classic film Suspira, and just in March we heard that the remake would be written and directed by David Gordon Green, and his comments were confusing as to whether this would be faithful to the original or not.
However today there's a big rumour over at Bloody Disgusting, and a big rumour at that. Handsome Charlie Films will be producing the film and that Natalie Portman is set to take the lead.
The original Suspiria tells the story, rather losely I use the word "story" because it is quite haphazard at times, of a young woman who arrives at a ballet school only to discover that it is being run by a coven of witches, and not for dancing either, but to bring about chaos, destruction and death. Oh, and they don't really like ballet.
Natalie Portman playing the lead? Well actually I don't think that would be so bad. I do think the remake is a bad idea because this will turn into another horror film, but I'd love to see Portman playing something like this.
Maybe once the writer's strike backlog has been cleared up, hopefully it will.
The only place in Hollywood where original stories do seem to be an ongoing concern (aside from Asia of course) is within the animation studios like Pixar and Dreamworks.
Maybe once the writer's strike backlog has been cleared up, hopefully it will.
The only place in Hollywood where original stories do seem to be an ongoing concern (aside from Asia of course) is within the animation studios like Pixar and Dreamworks.
Maybe once the writer's strike backlog has been cleared up, hopefully it will.
The only place in Hollywood where original stories do seem to be an ongoing concern (aside from Asia of course) is within the animation studios like Pixar and Dreamworks.
And another remake although this one holds a bit of interest for me:
The remake of Flash Gordon is tearing ahead at breakneck speed it seems as Sony has just assigned two writers to the project months after obtaining the rights to the film.
The writers have already written Dracula Year Zero which Alex Proyas is about to direct, so it would suggest that theres a little more here than a camp remake of a camp, but highly enjoyable, film.
The fact that Breck Eisner is also attached to direct also suggests that this Flash Gordon is going to be something stronger, and perhaps were seeing a return to the original stories rather than the film version weve seen to date.
Matt Sazama and Burk Sharpless are the two men assigned to writing duties, and yes they do sound like bizarre stage name. Interestingly Eisner is also on directing duties for Creature From the Black Lagoon, and a remake of The Crazies.
Something else that might back that up is the blurb that comes from The Hollywood Reporter which tells us that Flash Gordon focuses on a young polo player who is kidnapped and taken to the distant planet Mongo along with Dale Arden and Hans Zarkov (man, that name rings a bell in my head and the lines start rolling in'there is no cause for alarmalarmalarm.'). On the planet they begin a series of adventures fighting the dictator of the planet called Ming the Merciless and banding together with various groups under his control to overthrow him.
Now youll recognise all of that, but the film version had him as an American football player, while in the original stories he was a polo player.
Well its a good sign that the film is going to get made, previously the film had hung around for years not being looked at, but perhaps the studio think its the right time for the remake. Is it the right time for the audience?
At least it can't be as bad as the recent abominable TV version...
So you know how MTV is remaking The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and how that's universally regarded as a horrible idea? Well, not everyone is content to sit idly by and let the cult classic become known to a new generation as "that thing where Zac Efron was in drag" (I assume Zac Efron would be involved). Some people are ready to take a stand, and in the laziest way possible: an internet petition. From Stoptheremake.com:
Was anyone asking for this?! I mean the original is no cinematic masterpeice but it has retained a sort of dirty do-it-yourself charm. There are no great special effects, there are cheesy sets and a cheesier script. But thats its charm.
And worse yet. They say in this new imagining there will be new songs. Jesus Fucking Christ!!! This abortion will be worse than the usual shit they pour down on our throats.
Oh and The Day The Earth Stood Still remake isn't going to be any better. Not for all the effects in the world or Keanu Reeves playing a robot again. See The Matrix. See Constantine. Really Hollywood stop letting him act please.
Blind rage, irrelevant points, broad insults, an inexplicable attack on Keanu Reeves--even if this petition doesn't work (it probably won't work), at least MTV will know it definitely came from the internet.
Another classic getting another remake according to Filmstalker:
The writer who brought us the scripts for The Incredible Hulk, X-Men: The Last Stand, Fantastic Four, Elektra, Behind Enemy Lines, The Last Action Hero and the story for the X-Men. Wow, I hadn't realised that this was such a mixed bag.
Anyway he's been assigned to write the remake of Jason and the Argonauts. There's one good thing, at least he won't be responsible for recreating the stop motion skeletons, that'll be up to the director and the effects team, and for me that's a huge part of the film.
However the story looks like it's going to be adventure packed now that Zak Penn is on board to write.
This looks like it might go head to head with the Clash of the Titans remake from Louis Leterrier, which before The Incredible Hulk I would have thought would have been a action farce, however now I'm thinking it could surprise us all.
For The Argonauts though, we're going to have to wait a little while and see what comes from it, although we have a great starting point with the scriptwriter, we have to see who is assigned to direct.
This new film is going to come from Penn's original idea, so there are promises of something new from the well loved story of the group of sailors who are led by the heroic Jason on a quest to find the Golden Fleece.
Latino Review have the story from one of the Trades, but as usual they don't carry the linkback. Yeah it's a feud between them, and although I can understand why they are doing it, in the end they're behaving exactly as they are. However, that's another story.
They also say that there's another Argonauts film in the works, this time over at DreamWorks, and despite the big studio behind it this is the one that sounds weakest. Their film will have a bunch of treasure hunters finding the sunken ship the Argo, the one that Jason and his sailor mates were on, and they're transported back in time to...oh dear, stop there, I've heard enough.
So to me that DreamWorks version is dead, and the only one I'm really interested in is the version that Penn is writing, the proper remake. However there is part of me that just doesn't want this film remade, the original is a classic and those Ray Harryhausen effects are just superb, I honestly think that they could recreate the film and still use those great stop motion effects, honestly I believe that could work.
What do you think? If they are going to do a remake is the Penn one the one you want to see or is it really the DreamWorks? What would you want to see effects wise?
I wasn't aware that there was to be a Clash remake too...
Hollywood raids Europe for another remake says Filmstalker:
Tom Cruise is looking to lead The Tourist, the remake of the 2005 French thriller Anthony Zimmer. While Valkyrie gets moved around the release schedule and we wait to see him play a German war hero who fought a battle against Hitler from inside his ranks, we hear that he may be continuing his spy type roles.
It's interesting considering it's just been announced that Angelina Jolie has taken up the lead of another spy film Edwin A. Salt that Cruise was due to take. With so many spy thrillers on the slate I guess you can have your choice.
The Tourist is to be written by Julian Fellowes, a great writer and someone who really does produce strong stories with great characterisation and dialogue, so already we're looking good for the project.
The original film Anthony Zimmer has a superb premise, much more interesting than the blurb from Variety would suggest. Anthony Zimmer is a man who launders illegal money out of France, however he's being closely tracked by police and so he's had extensive plastic surgery and has a new face and new voice, now he's completely gone to the intelligence community and the mobsters who also want their hands on him.
However they have a plan, they're tracking his mistress who is the only link to him. However she's in on another plan. Having found an innocent man who looks very much like Zimmer, she latches onto him and uses him to throw the trailing groups off Zimmer's scent. Now this innocent man is being tracked by everyone from Interpol to professional Russian killers.
Now that sounds interesting. It's got some great twists in there and with Fellowes adapting the script I'm even more interested did you know he's writing a script for a film called Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell?
So add in Tom Cruise to the mix and I think we're going to get a powerful film. However there's two ways it can go for his character, they can make him the innocent or one of protagonists.
Personally I'd like to see him as a protagonist, either one of those chasing him or Zimmer himself, however there are a couple of things that might attract me to the idea of him playing the innocent. One is if this turns into a Hitchcock style thriller, then he could take up the typical Hitchcock leading man role really well, or if there's a few twists in store for the character.
What I wouldn't like to see is Cruise just pick up and play a similar character to the one we've seen before and find him walking the role, that's the Cruise performance that I don't find that interesting.
Update on the Poltergeist remake from Filmstalker:
The original Poltergeist was pretty damned scary, of that there is no denying. Written by Steven Spielberg and directed by Tobe Hooper might, on paper, sound like a complete disaster, I mean Saving Private Ryan meeting Texas Chainsaw Massacre? However it turned out to be superb, and now they're remaking it.
What's more two writers have just been announced for the project, Juliet Snowden and Stiles White, known for writing Boogeyman, Knowing and The Birds remake.
Now although we don't have a director on board for comparison, and no offence meant to the two writers, but Boogeyman to Steven Spielberg's Poltergeist script? I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that.
To be fair they have written the Alex Proyas directed Knowing which is coming soon, and they wrote the remake of The Birds, adapted from the original text, however I don't think it bodes that well for the new version.
Of course I could be wrong and this could turn out to be a big surprise...Then again.
There have been numerous stories of Poltergeist being remade, but this news from The Hollywood Reporter is the furthest it's gone yet. I think this might just happen.
What do you think of a remake of this classic horror film? Are there going to be any horrors left to remake at this rate? Child's Play is even getting the remake treatment! Where are the original ideas and why aren't they getting picked up by Hollywood? Are they too scared of the investment?
Stephen Sommers is going to be directing Tarzan, no really he is.
Actually he's in negotiations so there's a chance he still might not direct it, however the fact that Stuart Beattie is adapting the script from the Edgar Rice Burroughs story is exciting, Beattie wrote Collateral, 30 Days of Nights, and the Pirates of the Caribbean series.
The story comes from The Hollywood Reporter, and I'm wondering if it isn't such good news to have Stephen Sommers directing the film.
Previously we heard Guillermo del Toro had been looking to direct a script written by John Collee who had written Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World but del Toro is a tad busy so it's onto pastures new.
Personally I would have thought a darker more fantastical version of the story from del Toro would have been better, and then Hollywood could have shouted about a reimagining of the story and a return to the origins and all that rubbish.
This way we are probably going to get an action adventure film much like The Mummy or Van Helsing, now is that the Tarzan you want to see?
There's no real reason given for Robert DeNiro leaving the production of Edge of Darkness other than that easy get out clause, creative differences. However the news is he's gone, and I think that's probably a good thing all round for the film considering his performances of late, he's not the actor he once was. Martin Campbell now has to find a new star to headline alongside Mel Gibson in the remake of the BBC television series which he also directed. The story comes from somewhere on Variety through JoBlo.
Filmstalker says DeNiro out - Winstone in for Edge of Darkness:
What an excellent choice. After Robert De Niro left the Edge of Darkness production leaving Mel Gibson standing alone, the news has come that Ray Winstone is in negotiations to take his place, and I think that's wonderful news.
Martin Campbell and the team have made an excellent choice, and I would dare to say that they should have done that from the beginning. De Niro has lost his edge, and he's lost it for some time now, Winstone has most definitely not.
I wonder though, will Ray Winstone, if he secures the role, be playing the part with an American accent or will he be playing an British man abroad? I don't think it really matters, not after the performance he pulled off in The Departed (Filmstalker review).
One thing is clear though, Ray Winstone is going from strength to strength in Hollywood but despite that he keeps signing up for smaller British based roles, which is superb for us as an audience.
I really don't think it's a loss to see Robert De Niro off the project, I mean these days he's more comfortable doing cheap comedy than strong thrillers.
The news of his negotiations comes from Variety, and if successful he would join other stars on the set of Martin Campbell's Edge of Darkness including Mel Gibson and Danny Huston. Now Huston and Winstone together, I think, would make a great combination.
Surprising news about Ridley Scott's Robin Hood remake from Filmstalker:
Some new information about Ridley Scott's Nottingham is out. According to Ridley Scott, Russell Crowe will not only be playing the Sheriff of Nottingham, he'll also be playing Robin Hood himself.
The first part we knew about, but the second is a surprise. Wonder how that will work.
Nottingham director Ridley Scott was talking to MTV Movies Blog about Bodies of Lies, when he dropped the news about Russell Crowe doubling up.
Hes playing both!
Crowe was already down to play the Sheriff of Nottingham. And rumours had already started about who would be playing Robin Hood in the film. Christian Bale's name was mentioned as a possible. But Scott says Crowe will play both roles, while being guarded about how it would work. He says it will be:
...a good old clever adjustment of characters. One becomes the other. It changes.
Sounds like a crazy idea. I wonder how different Crowe will look in each role. Will it work to have the same actor playing both? Can Russell Crowe pull both off?
Another superhero is supposedly up for the "reboot" treatment according to Filmstalker:
There are loads of superhero characters being rebooted these days. Batman and Superman to name a couple. Now Fox say they are considering rebooting a character, and it's Daredevil.
The last imagining had Ben Affleck as Daredevil. Is the time right to start again?
Daredevil was last made into a film in 2003. Ben Affleck was the man himself, and it also starred Jennifer Garner, Colin Farrell and Jon Favreau. It had a fairly mixed reception back then. But now 20th Century Fox co-chairman Tom Rothman, says that a Daredevil reboot is a possibility. He was talking to IESB, through First Showing.net.
A Daredevil, to use your words, reboot, is something we are thinking very seriously about.
Rothman thinks that time is a great healer, and that given the right amount of downtime a character can be successfully rebooted. He sights The Dark Knight as the ultimate example:
...when they did Batman Begins, the first Nolan movie, that you can have made some mistakes along the way or movies that the audience wasn't that crazy about and then given the proper amount of time and the right creative vision behind it, you can, to use your word, reboot. It needs someone, it needs a director, honestly, who has a genuine vision. What we wouldn't do is just do it for the sake of doing it.
Some comforting words there, that they aren't going to go ahead with it regardless. Would you be interested in a new Daredevil film? Does it need it?
I think the answer is "Nope".
To be fair, the Ben Affleck version wasn't *that* bad per se - rather it was too short and under-developed with too many villians for a debut film.
Footloose remake news which will no doubt please DM:
The director of the High School Musical films says that he's been asked to remake Footloose next year and he also revealed who is likely to be the lead to replace the iconic role made famous by Kevin Bacon, and really it's not a surprise.
It appears that Paramount are keen on the idea, as is director and possible lead.
Kenny Ortega is a producer, choreographer and the director on the High School Musical films and was speaking to BBC's Newsbeat about High School Musical 3: Senior Year when he revealed the news about Footloose and that he has been...
...invited to re-imagine Footloose for Paramount next year
Now that doesn't quite sound like he's directing the remake, it does sound as though he's working on creating the idea and possibly a rough outline for a script to see if the idea will float.
Personally I don't see a remake breaking the same ground that Footloose did, it's never going to be as mainstream and cult-ish as the original, and it will probably just go the same way as High School Musical, for the young fans of the stars and the music, the Disney channel audience.
Still, it seems as thought the idea is getting interest from the studio as Ortega reveals:
There's some genuine enthusiasm coming from the Paramount side...I've really enjoyed working with them in our early development and it looks like there's a real good chance that this may be a movie that we're going to do next year.
The article on the BBC reveals that, unsurprisingly, Ortega has someone in mind already for the role that Kevin Bacon once danced through, and it backs up what I just thought about the intended audience.
I think he'd be the perfect, perfect, perfect candidate to step in. I mean he's got this global excitement, this wonderful know-how...He's the perfect age, so versatile, and talented and dynamic. You know it's hard for me to even imagine anybody that I think would be more perfectly suited.
So they caught up with Zac Efron at the High School Musical 3: Senior Year première and asked him if he would be interested, he was diplomatic but did say that the film idea is moving on:
I'll always be open to more musicals. I think they're fun and I think it's our responsibility as performers to try and keep them alive. I love Footloose - it's a great movie.
I don't know, that's more diplomatic than an acceptance. However can you really see a new version of Footloose? Actually I can see it, it's just not right though.
Of course there's also this to consider. Ortega has revealed that he wants to do a fourth in the High School Musical series, but the class just had their senior year, so where would they be going now? Well off to work obviously, and imagine if Troy Bolton (the character Efron plays in High School Musical) leaves home and heads out into a small town for work, there finding that they have banned all rock and dance music as well as dancing itself.
That's the plot for High School Musical 4: Footloose.