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And it's called: Shrek Goes Forth!  Yes that's correct they've nicked the Blackadder title!!!

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Shrek the third was too short and not as funny, hope they come out with something new to add to the story.

I want to see more of donkey's chlldren and little shreks.




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Since sequels are as much a dominant portion of Hollywood's current output as remakes are, I feel they deserve a collective thread of their own. Starting with:

Indiana Jones 5 (credit: Filmstalker)

Not only does George Lucas want a fifth Indiana Jones, but he's already talking about handling the franchise the way he handled Star Wars, and that's not good. He wants to modernise it.

Talking about Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull he reveals that there was a lot of tension between him and Steven Spielberg and that it is a hybrid of their ideas.

From the comments it's clear that the working relationship between George Lucas and Steven Spielberg wasn't that great, and in fact it sounds as though Lucas is pointing the finger a little towards the others involved in the film, saying that doing the first three films was easy because it was just him making the decisions.

Have a read of the comments from The Sunday Times through Coming Soon and see how Lucas may have just killed his chances of working with Spielberg on the next Indiana Jones film:

'...it was a challenge getting the story together and getting everybody to agree on it. Indiana Jones only becomes complicated when you have another two people saying I want it this way and I want it that way, whereas, when I first did Jones, I just said, Well do it this way and that was much easier. But now I have to accommodate everybody, because they are all big, successful guys, too, so its a little hard on a practical level...

...with the last one, Steven wasnt that enthusiastic. I was trying to persuade him. But now Steve is more amenable to doing another one. Yet we still have the issues about the direction wed like to take. Im in the future; Stevens in the past. Hes trying to drag it back to the way they were, Im trying to push it to a whole different place. So, still we have a sort of tension. This recent one came out of that. Its kind of a hybrid of our own two ideas, so well see where we are able to take the next one.'

Get that? I'm sure Spielberg did, it almost sounds like he was just in the way there, and he still is. Imagine the audacity of wanting to go back to the old Indiana Jones!

However this does point to something. All the good parts of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull probably came from Steven Spielberg. The rest, like the nuclear survival fridge, the gophers, the monkey swinging vines and young Indy, all probably came from Lucas, the man who brought us the three new Star Wars, a half hearted Darth Vader, and Jar Jar Binks.

Still, if he comes up with the idea and they either all agree, or they just bend to Lucas' desires, it sounds like we could see a fifth film:

'We were hoping for box-office figures like that, which is, ultimately, with inflation, what the others have done, within 10%...So, we squeaked up there.'

However I think one thing is clear from these comments, Lucas wants the young Indy to take over, and Spielberg wants to stay with the old Indy.

Personally I'm with Spielberg on that one.

 

and Evil Dead 4? (Credit: Filmstalker)

 

Not so long ago Bruce Campbell talked about how he would like to do another Evil Dead film. He was only interested if Sam Raimi was on board as well though. Now Sam Raimi has been asked if he thinks he will do another film, and he says yes. Sounds like we are inching closer to another Evil Dead film.

Sam Raimi was asked at Comic Con about the chances of another Evil Dead film being made, and if he thought it was likely to happen. He told MTV Movies Blog:

'Yes. For the few weirdoes that see the Evil Dead movies - and its not a very big crowd if you ever look at those numbers, but theyre very dedicated. Id love to make another Evil Dead picture...If the financing ever fell in place right. But first, Id have to work on the script with my brother [Ivan Raimi]. And thats something Im hoping to find the time to do.'
There we go then. Sounds like it's a definite possibility, and he could be working on a script soon. I'm with Bruce Campbell, without Raimi I wouldn't be interested in another Evil Dead film. Are you excited about the prospect of another Evil Dead film? Or should they be left alone?

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I'd like to see another Evil Dead film. I think they kinda left the franchise hanging after the third one. I think Unless they do the CGI one they were talking about doing Bruce Campbell might be a tad too old to reprise the role of "Ash" but I think there are actors who could take the helm. I always thought Matt Dillon would play the part well.

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Could a Venom spin off from the Spider-man films be on the way?

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Last we heard of a Venom spin off, a group of A list writers were being sought. Now it looks like the film might be going in a different direction, and not necessarily with the actor who played him in Spiderman 3.

Could Venom hold a film on his own?

The Hollywood Reporter, through Coming Soon says that one writer who was working on the project isn't anymore. Jacob Estes who also wrote Mean Creek had written a script, but Sony want to take it in a different direction. They are now looking for new writers to come up with a different take.

It also looks like Topher Grace, who played Venom in Spiderman 3, isn't a certainty for the role in the spin off. It seems Sony aren't sure he would be able to carry a film purely based on Venom.

Spiderman 4 is also still in development for a 2011 release, so I wonder where this one will fit in. The source says that Sony are hoping that a Venom film could give a new injection into the Spiderman franchise, along the lines of what the Wolverine film could be doing for X Men.

Do you want to see a Venom spin off? Could it spice up the Spiderman franchise, or dilute it?


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Hmmmm. Spiderman was a good trilogy. Why risk spoiling it with an over indulgent spin-off? I dont see how it could be a success. Hollywood likes heroes. I fail to see how Venom could in anyway be made into a hero!

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Not only has Spider-Man 4 been heavily touted it now seems another franchise may hit quadruple status:

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Mike Myers could be heading back to familiar territory in Austin Powers. A rumour is out that following The Love Guru, Myers is writing a fourth installment of Austin Powers.

I kind of lost interest with the third one, can he make a new one and still keep it fresh? It looks like for the fourth one, he'll be looking at his own life for inspiration.

The rumour of a fourth Austin Powers comes from Deadline Hollywood Daily, through Cinematical. According to the secret source, the next one will be mostly about Dr Evil and his son Scott.

'It's very personal with a father and son theme loosely based on his own life'

Mike Myers is said to be working on it with Mike McCullers, who wrote Baby Mama and worked with Myers on Austin Powers 2: The Spy Who Shagged Me and Austin Powers 3: Goldmember. With The Love Guru getting a fairly luke warm reception it's no real surprise if he is returning to Austin Powers.

I'm not overly excited at the thought of more Austin Powers films, with the same old jokes. They were fairly funny at the time but I'm not sure I'd be as interested now. Would you be interested in another Austin Powers film? Or have they had their day?


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With The Dark Knight currently ruling the box office talk of the next Batman movie is already under way. Filmstalker has the gossip:

I don't know what it is with these rumours about The Dark Knight sequel, which we'll call Batman 3 for now, but it seems to be going crazy with "who could be the next villain?" and 'which big name star could play them?', and the next one is out and it's rather fantastical too.

I'm surprised that this is happening so much considering that we don't actually have the Nolan brothers on board to write, nor is it a certainty that Christopher Nolan will direct.

Right now in fact there's little that is concrete, we don't even know if there will be another Batman film after The Dark Knight (Filmstalker review). Actually I'm pretty sure there will be, the real question is if there's going to be one coming from the talented Nolan brothers.

So we've heard that Angelina Jolie would love to play Catwoman - you have to watch those off hand comments in Hollywood - and now we're hearing that the producers of the film would love Johnny Depp to play the Riddler and Philip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin.

While these sound like more and more rumours plucked from idle Friday afternoon banter about which star could play which villain, it is starting to raise a few concerns for me about the production. After all, this is what went wrong with Spider-Man.

In step the producers saying that they want more villains and that they want this and that, and it's up to the writers and director to try and fit them in and make the film work regardless of what they want.

That's something very dangerous when we've just seen the best Batman film, the best comic book character film, and a damn good film at that, all coming from the great writer, director, cinematographer, editor, musical director, and so on. Not a producer in sight.

For the producers to start saying what and who they want in the film before there is any actual film creating talent on board is rather dangerous, aren't we going down the route of the old Batman films all of a sudden?

I think they need to back off and court the Nolan's, try and get them back for another film before shouting about who can play roles in the film and what characters they could play.

Anyway, I think these two latest names are just idle speculation and not from anyone really involved in the film, especially not the creative side. The comments come from one of those pesky sources through The Telegraph and Comic Book Movie.

While the speculation over at the Telegraph, obviously from someone who doesn't know about films, is that the next film could feature Riddler, Penguin and Catwoman, I very much doubt it. At the most we'll have two villains in the film, Nolan showed us that could work, but only if they could work together on screen.

We've seen how many comic book films, especially Batman, have been ruined with too many villains, why don't the producers (if that's who the source was) just wait until they have creatives onboard and get them to come up with the ideas? You know, the ones that made The Dark Knight such a success?


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Slightly disappointed in this but not surprised since the first film was a huge success, this is the first teaser trailer for The Host 2 which is said to be more of a prequel than a sequel:

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/the_host_2_teaser_trailer

Not much to see to be frank but it does peak enough interest for the future.

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Okay, this one truly beggars belief:

Do you want to see a sequel to Doom ? Well I used to love the videogame series and was always beating everyone at work...well most of the time anyway, but the film wasn't that good.

Saying that it had a lot of potential, and it did have some great aspects to it, but do you really want to see the sequel?

Well the company who made the Doom games, id, are well into the idea, and why not? They are still getting Doom games out there and people are still buying them, and if it earns them some more money why wouldn't they be into it?

The President of id, Todd Hollenshead has been talking about what he would like, Hollywood aside, and through Kotaku and MoviesOnline he said:


'Personally I'd like to do another Doom movie, I thought working with it was a blast...There are some lessons we learned. The best way to do things better is to get the experience.'


Still though, they don't own the rights to the film version, so they can't really make the studio do it, they have to want to and be able to see some money in it. For me, I think they should pick an upcoming horror director and put them in the film, because it's that kind of movie. However keep the budget high enough to get the CG right.

Here's what I said about the original film:


'Overall I would say that it gave Doom fans just what they wanted, and more. It also gives action-horror fans a nice little film. Given a revisit by the editing team I think we really could see a better, more thrilling and suspenseful ending, which could build tension better than it did.

As it is, it's not as bad as the reviewers made out when it was released and does give that Dom feeling along with plenty of Rock action. If only there were more of that BFG.'


So I did enjoy it, of course to Doom wasn't a superb film, but it delivered the videogame experience of Doom, and it delivered it well in my mind. However what do you think, and are you a fan of the games or not? Want a sequel?



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More on the proposed Venom spin-off from Filmstalker:

With Sony's Venom spin off film still moving along, the creator and writers have been talking about the film. They've been saying what they think will be needed, if a Venom spin off film is to work.

Sony are hoping that a Venom film could help give the Spiderman series a boost. And from what the creator and writers say, Sony may want to get them working on the film.

It is following Venom's appearance in Spiderman 3, that he is to have his own film. And the creator of the character has his own views on what it will take to make the film a success. Speaking to Splash Page, David Michelinie had this to say:


'I think Venom could headline a good movie on his own, but it would be tricky and would depend in large part on the script...If Eddies still dead from Spider-Man 3, the story and the success of the movie would depend almost entirely on the personality of the character who would combine with the symbiote: his motivations, his background, his methodologyhis heart and soul'


Kaare Andrews, who wrote Spiderman: Reign, is excited about a film version. But we wants a different Venom than the one in Spiderman 3, and he also wants Spiderman to still be the hero.


'Im hoping this version of Venom will be the big beast of an alien from comics and not as wimpy and whiney as the last movie. They are so great as opposing forces, and as a fan I feel a little cheated from Spider-Man 3.'


Perhaps the most telling comment comes from Peter Milligan who wrote Spider-Man: Venom vs. Carnage. He wants a darker film, but has a feeling that isn't what we'll get.


'Itd be cool if they made it the darkest and most disturbing Spider-Man movie to date. A real journey into the dark side of the inhuman soul. But that wont happen.'

I like the sound of a really dark film, but as he says it's unlikely. Sony will probably stick with a similar feel to the Spiderman films. I suppose a darker film could mean a more adult rating, and there goes the big box office. It's great hearing the creator talk about what the film could be though, makes me wish he and the other writers were coming up with a script.

Do you agree with the writers about what a decent Venom film will need? Would you rather see a darker film, maybe not aimed at capturing such a wide audience?


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I thought Venom was a pretty weak villian in the Spidey films. I think they should have added Carnage with him instead of The Sandman, but for a Venom spinoff? Im not excited. Unlike the Wolverine one.

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As I said, I just dont see the potential for a film about Venom. Whats the point?

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Underworld 3 is on the way and Bill Nighy is coming back for it. Yes I know his character died in the last one but its a prequel...

ShockTillYouDrop.com talked exclusively to Bill Nighy at the San Diego Comic-Con about returning as Viktor in Screen Gems' Underworld: Rise of the Lycans, opening in theaters on January 23.

The prequel story traces the origins of the centuries-old blood feud between the aristocratic vampires known as Death Dealers and their onetime slaves, the Lycans. In the Dark Ages, a young Lycan named Lucian (Michael Sheen) emerges as a powerful leader who rallies the werewolves to rise up against Viktor (Nighy), the cruel vampire king who has enslaved them. Lucian is joined by his secret lover, Sonja (Rhona Mitra), in his battle against the Death Dealer army and his struggle for Lycan freedom.


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I actually liked the Underworld films. But I don't see this being that good. The story will be quite thin and cool fights and a couple of sexy vampires is wearing off as a selling point for these kinds of films.

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Should please DM that Filmstalker talks about a fourth Mummy film(which includes SPOILERS):


Looks like there could be a fourth Mummy film after all and Rob Cohen is talking it up at every opportunity. I first heard it when he commented on the possibility of a xXx sequel with Vin Diesel, well now he's talking about locations for the new films as well as what he would explore in it.

The question is will it be successful enough to ensure another one is made.

Now you should be aware that as part of this story there's a big spoiler. So what I'll do is talk about the location aspects of the sequel first and then I'll go into the spoiler territory so that you can read as much as possible about it without spoiling the story.

It seems that at the end of The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor Evelyn's brother Jonathan, played by John Hannah, moves to Peru, and that's possibly where Rob Cohen would want the next film set.

In comments he makes through Cinema Blend he says:


'If we want to go to Mexico or we want to go to Peru, we can because theres a cultural truth there of the mummies and these beautiful cultures.'


**WARNING - SPOILERS**

Now, spoiler territory, and this could be huge I think, so if you don't like spoilers the time to look away is now.

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Now that does surprise me, I really thought that this film was gearing up for a handover to the son, but it seems it opens all sorts of possibilities, the biggest one being the return of the entire gang for a fourth film, although Mexico? I guess if they've moved it once they can move it again.



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I thought we had a thread on this but anyway...Filmstalker has an update on Goonies 2:

At the start of last year we heard that The Goonies was getting a sequel and that it was heading direct to DVD, well that doesn't seem the case if the inside sources are to be believed.

It actually seems that Goonies 2 is going to be a big budget film, and that two top class writers are already on the case writing a big budget sequel.

An inside source, whom Moviehole trusts a great deal, tells them through JoBlo that there's going to be a sequel and that it's going to be a major release for Warner Bros., as they say a tent pole or flag pole, or just a damn big pole at the centre of something, maybe a traffic light in the middle of a roundabout, whatever. The point is it looks set for a major release.

What they were also told is that there are rather well paid writers currently on the project and that there's word that some of the original cast would return, although there's no idea of who would, but when you look at Richard Donner's original The Goonies from a story by Steven Spielberg and Chris Columbus' screenplay, there are some great names.

Sean Astin, Josh Brolin, Corey Feldman, Martha Plimpton and even Joe Pantoliano!

I think it's great news that they're doing a sequel and I think it's superb that it's going to be a big budget film, but at the same time there are a few warning lights being flashed for me. Just making something big budget and boasting that writers are being paid a lot of money isn't the most promising thing to hear for a film these days, let's face it.

It would have been better news to hear that there are top class writers working on it and there are a couple of top class directors being touted for the film. Hopefully that's going to come, but it would have been better to hear something along those lines rather than just throwing money at it.


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Another update:


Another day, another rumour, and another site says something different. Our sources say this, our sources say that, it's like He Said, She Said. Well now another site is saying that their sources say The Goonies 2 is not happening, and any confusion is probably over another film called Treehouse Gang.

Of course there won't be any smoke and mirrors going on, because that never happens in Hollywood, and sources are always reliable, whoever they come from. Much as I dislike the rumours that turn out to be true, I love talking about their possibilities.

However today it looks like another side of the Interflab are saying no way to The Goonies 2 story that appeared the other day. There we were led to believe that there was going to be another film, big budget, and probably with some of the original cast returning. It was from an inside source that was very reliable.

Today we hear from Cinematical through the cool MoviesOnline who say that it's rubbish and that their inside sources say it's not all true note their wording, not all true. They say it's getting confused with Treehouse Gang whose plot is more like a Goonies sequel than anything I've heard ever.


'That film follows a group of childhood friends/explorers who meet up at their 10-year reunion and wind up on a treasure-hunting adventure.'


Wow, that sounds like a sequel to The Goonies, and probably just a way to get around paying people like Steven Spielberg huge royalties for doing a sequel to his original idea. Who knows. Maybe it's even a diversion to stop the Interflab talking about it. Either way, another site is saying it's off. Good news, bad news?

Bear in mind that this doesn't exactly debunk the Goonies sequel idea because that's been on the go since February 2007 when there was talk of a direct to DVD sequel.


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Filmstalker says Lethal Weapon 5 maybe in the making:

This rumour comes from Tracking B through Cinema Blend. Seems Shane Black who wrote the original Lethal Weapon has written a new treatment, and he's handed it over to Joel Silver.

The new idea has Riggs near retirement, and he asks Murtaugh to come out of retirement to help him solve one final case. Wonder if Mel Gibson and Danny Glover can be tempted back, would you want them to be? Having the original writer on board bodes well at least.


Do we need another LW film?

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Depends. If Mel Gibsons on board why not. It worked for Die Hard, Rocky, Rambo. The one I really want a sequel for would be Schwarzenegers Commando.

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Filmstalker with some news on Indy 5:


Okay, those who have been criticising me for, as they think, having an agenda against George Lucas, are about to get a surprise. George Lucas has done something right. He has publicly announced that Indiana Jones is not going to be handed over to another lead, Harrison Ford is still the man.

Superb news, and well done him for saying it. However I am still going to do have something a little negative to say.

George Lucas recently admitted of Harrison Ford:

'He is Indiana JonesIf Indiana Jones wasn't in it, you'd have to call it 'Mutt Williams and the search for Elvis.'Yeah, it's 'Mutt Williams and the Search for Elvis.' '


Well thats good news, because in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull it really did seem as though we were going to be handing the series over with all those son moments in it.

George Lucas was talking with Associated Press through Google News and revealed that hes actively searching for an idea for the next Indy film, so there is going to be an Indiana Jones V.


'The franchise really depends on me coming up with a good ideaAnd that series is very research-intensive. So we're doing research now to see if we can't come up with another object for him to chase ... hopefully we'll come up with something.'


Yeah, well keep the silly animal scenes out of it, concentrate on the old Indiana Jones, and recapture that glory. I would seriously suggest listening more to Steven Spielberg, he really does know what hes talking about you know, just check his track record.

The only worrying thing for me is the fact that Lucas is talking about taking the franchise in a new direction, while Spielberg wanted to recapture the essence of Indy. Well Im going with Spielberg on this one, and you can definitely feel the sections that are more Indy than the non-Indy sections read nuclear fridge, animal scenes, leaping through the jungle, crazy alien section, and so on.

Meanwhile he talks about his plan to develop 3D versions of all the Star Wars films


'We're trying to do thatWe worked on some, with a company that was developing the technology a few years ago to convert films into 3-D, we worked with them. But the system works great. It's just not very practical. So what we've been working on since then is to develop a sort of practical way to do it. And we will get there. It's just a technological challenge.'


However the closing comment has me baffled, but does line up perfectly with what Ive said about Lucas double, triple, quadruple, and onwards dipping with the Star Wars series of films:


'Like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, I'll go out and adopt twins if they'll pay me $14 million to do it.'


Well I guess we all would, but some of us would love to see the Star Wars films, and even the universe, left alone and some new work coming, and by that I mean a new and faithful Indiana Jones and non-sequels or franchise films.


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It seems that another 80's classic is on it's way back according to Moviehole:

A very, very, very good source – if I revealed his name, you’d know straight away this was a solid bit of news – informed me a few days ago that “the sequel Corey Feldman has been telling media will never happen”, one “Goonies 2”, is indeed… happening. (And I don't blame the Felddog for assuming it's never going to happen either - this one's been rumoured longer than the talking fridge).

Now I don't know when it's going to happen, because it has been on the drawing boards for a good decade now ("Star Trek" and "Transformers" scribe Robert Orci told me today that he was involved in a draft in about 1998), but it does seem to be inching forward.

So what have I been told? well, Warner Bros are finally going to give it the respect it deserves – this will be a large-scale theatrical release.. a tentpole. It will not be a direct-to-video release.

(A source at Warner Bros has since confirmed this - saying they are developing it as a major movie, but won't share anything other than that. Nothing we didn't already know though)

We've been told that there are writers on the project - and they're being paid rather nicely for their services too – so it’s doubtful the script will be used as merely a place mat to hold Alan Horn’s sandwich. But god I hope they don't fuck this bitch up - "The Goonies" is one childhood memory I don't want butt-assaulted.

I’ve no idea what the script is about, nor do I know how far into the script the writers are, but we're told that it’ll apparently involve some of the original cast - I doubt Josh Brolin will return though; and even if he was keen, would Warner want to pay him the hefty fee he now gets? Doubtful – and some new cast members. I can’t imagine ‘all’ of the original “Goonies” coming back, can you? I’d think Corey Feldman, Sean Astin and, er, Short-Round would be the most likeliest recruits for a reprise… if only because they haven’t disappeared off-the-map (Martha Plimpton where art thou? Keri Green… does she still act?). You never know, ‘Chunk’ might even get a call too – but he’s not very ‘Chunky’ anymore (dude dropped half his weight!), so Jonah Hill will probably step into that character’s shoes. Hollywood - gotta love it.

But there you have it, after years and years of rumours – and even some attempts to get the film up by original director Richard Donner – “The Goonies 2” will soon be a reality. I’m expecting the trades to report this soon enough….. and, of course, pretend that we didn’t say it first.


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Er...I already posted similar news a few posts back DM... hmm

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Seriously, this is a nightmare I can't keep up with it all....

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News on another sequel from Filmstalker:


Here's an interesting piece of news, I've been joking about getting a Universal Soldier 3 film off the ground with all these eighties restarts on the go, but it's only been a joke. Well maybe from me but it seems that the director of Lost Boys: The Tribe has a script for Universal Soldier 3, and that it was being considered.

However the news today is not so good. The potential reunion of Jean-Claude Van Damme and Dolph Lundgren is down the tubes, and I think that's terrible news. That and the news that there might just be a third Lost Boys film, it seems that direct to DVD pays off after all.

The news from P.J Pesce, the director of Lost Boys: The Tribe, is that he had a great script all ready to go but the plan has just fallen through, he uses a much harsher and more definite term:


'Unfortunately that has fallen apart...It's really too bad. We had a great script. But it just cratered - I don't know what's gonna happen.'


That's the comment from Moviehole through Bloody Disgusting, and it's pretty final isn't it? I think that's a real shame because Universal Soldier was a fun film, and something pretty good could be done with it.

Imagine if they don't only update it but make it more realistic, take out some of the cheesy lines like: 'You're discharged Sarge'...and give it dramatic strength and a decent budget. Both Jean-Claude Van Damme and Dolph Lundgren can act, and both of them could do the original justice with a nicely updated and bigger budget film. I'd definitely go see it, wouldn't you?

In other news the director is also saying that Lost Boys 3 is being discussed...oh dear lord. I'd rather see a new Universal Soldier.


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See now the people they really need back for that is Micheal Jai White and Bill Goldberg who were awesome in the second one with JCVD. Or maybe have all four of them (With Dolup Lungdren), mega awesomeness!!!

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Top Gun 2 is on the cards people... The story is thus:

An insider said: “The idea is Maverick is at the Top Gun school as an instructor — and this time it is he who has to deal with a cocky new female pilot.”

Hmmm cocky female pilot? Katie Holmes maybe?

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They said "cocky" not "skinny, brainwashed by her Scientologist twat husband and can't act"....

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Nothing like a post on Cruise to get Mibbers going, like a moth to a flame... Bit like me with a certain Mr Cena...

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willl some one please go to hollywood and killl the followiing in this order

tom cruise

then the studio bosses who think he can act

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Evil Dead IV update from Filmstalker:


Are we ever going to see an Evil Dead 4 from the original team? Despite the positive talk over the past year from the very people behind the original, Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell, there's still nothing concrete happening and there's a wonder if there ever will be.

However both Raimi and Campbell continue to push the film and are trying to keep the idea alive, even if they are honest enough to say that there's nothing happening on it. Recently Campbell even talked about how they would have to make it.

It seems that Bruce Campbell is even thinking about how to film Evil Dead 4, even though they aren't progressing the project. MoviesOnline have the comment from Comic-Con through MTV (no source article found):


'I mean if we were really smart [though], wed go back to a handheld movie and shoot it in 16mm and find someplace in the middle of nowhere. And have a crew of 10 people. If we were smart.

Well that makes sense, but still I can't see it working unless they sit down with absolutely no equipment and have some serious attempts at creating shots in imaginative ways, and I think that's going to be a problem now that they're all so used to big budgets and expensive equipment.'


He does go on to capture the essence of the film though:


'The beauty of the Evil Dead movies is that youre only appealing to one demographic and thats people who like horror movies. And you just have to please them. You dont have to appeal to the studio. Youre already pleasing them by giving them part 4.'


Yeah, but you're really going to have to work some to ensure that the studio who's distributing the film promise not to hack it all up at the last moment and make something more commercial.

However that's all great to say this is how it should be made, the problem is that it's not being made. Right now there's no plans to do it just talk like 'if we did do it, it would be like this, but no one's doing it.'

The biggest barrier and problem that's stopping this film though is the audience expectation. We're expecting so much from this fourth outing, and we're building it up more and more. Despite everything we know about Hollywood we still expect that Sam Raimi and the team can get back together and produce something akin to the original films.

In a way it's like a new band on the scene with their first album, that one astounds and the wave carries them forward, and yet the follow-ups may be studio slick and hits, but they never capture the rawness and excitement of the first few songs that made them famous. That's because they've spent so much time making those songs from their own life experiences and in their own time, now throw them in a studio and that's all gone, they've gone time, money and business pressures from people around them, and the expectation to recreate that first album they spent years on.

That's how it feels for Evil Dead 4. I wonder if they've all come too far to go back to the series and to make it live up to expectations.


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Like we really need it....? From Bloody Disgusting .com

This reminds me of the battle that went on to get the remake of Friday The 13th on the big screen. After AICN posted their incredible interview with Child's Play creator Don Mancini and producer David Kirschner, we got in touch with Mancini who gave us an update of the actual status of the remake, which will also see the return of Brad Dourif. What will it take for Charles Lee Ray to return as Chucky in theaters? Read on and find out. "We've had several meetings," Don Mancini tells Bloody-Disgusting, "I pitched my new take to the studio and got their notes. They definitely want to make the movie. But they're busy with the deal-making process at the moment, which is complicated by the fact that the remake rights are owned jointly by Universal and MGM (where we made the original film). "

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Just one - "Why?"

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Coming May 2009 Night at the Museum 2: Battle of the Smithsonian...

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Whats next? The Marine 2: Ultimate Warrior?!?

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The first Museum film was good but I do think a sequel is too much...

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Some rather disturbing casting news concerning the next Batman film from Filmstalker:

Another Batman casting rumour for you, this time it's Catwoman. The last rumour we heard had Angelina Jolie wanting to play the role. Now rumour has it Christopher Nolan's favourite, if he goes down that road, is Cher.

Surely this isn't true. Cher?

Since The Dark Knight (Filmstalker review) was released there has been a lot of discussion about the next film in the series. Will Christopher Nolan be back? What villains should be in it? And which villains would transfer best into Nolan's darker version of Batman.

Not so long ago Angelina Jolie threw her hat in the ring and said she'd like to play Catwoman in the next film. Now The Daily Telegraph, through Cinema Blend, say that Nolan's favourite for the role of Catwoman is singer/actress Cher.


'Cher is Nolan's first choice to play Catwoman. He wants to her to portray her like a vamp in her twilight years. The new Catwoman will be the absolute opposite of Michelle Pfeiffer and Halle Berry's purring creations.'


That was the favourite anonymous studio executive speaking there. They also seem to say that filming would begin early next year, strange considering there is no director and no script.

I can't see this coming true. I'm pretty sure Nolan had said he didn't see a return for Catwoman. Maybe he could be persuaded for the likes of Jolie. But Cher? How would that work? I hope they get Nolan or someone else on board soon, and then maybe we can get some concrete news on the next film. My guess for next rumour, Lindsay Lohan as Batgirl.



If this is true then this film is doomed before it even gets off the ground. Seriously - cher?

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Hell no! Imagine her donning the cat-suit now... Now clean up that pile of puke you just made!

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What would be more plastic: Cher or the PVC suit she'd be wearing?

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Filmstalker with some news about more films featuring Vin Diesel's Riddick character which originated in Pitch Black:


It was back in November of 2007 that David Twohy started talking about the prospect of another Riddick film, you know a sequel to Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick, and the exciting news is that Vin Diesel is now talking about it and the fact that Twohy is actually writing two scripts, not one.

The new story doesn't say what direction these films will take, but if we go back to the Filmstalker article in 2007 we'll see that Twohy was talking about more Pitch Black than Chronicles.

Back then David Twohy, who is the writer and director of both films, as well as writing some other good and bad films (Waterworld or The Fugitive?) said the following about the idea:


'All I can say now is "We're talking about it." The DVD numbers were really good - we know that, and some potential financiers know that. But if another movie surfaces, it probably won't be a Universal movie and probably will be an independent movie. Which means we'll have to make it for substantially less than the last installment. But that's okay. PITCH BLACK was $22 million all in. Maybe it's time to go back to our roots - as we go on to The UnderVerse.'


So that's got to be good, and similarly that's what Vin Diesel was saying just the other day through MTV and Rope of Silicon:


'David Twowy right now is writing the scripts...The only question is whether we take a page from the Lord of the Rings guys and try to shoot the two chapters at the same time. There are two more in mind.'


Two more films? Well that goes against what he said last year, but in a very good way, back then he said it was going to be a trilogy.

The really good news is what is proposed, and Diesel is still echoing the same sentiment about where the films are going, although he's not as specific to say it's definitely going to be Pitch Black over The Chronicles of Riddick:

Sooner or later we all end up in the Underverse...The real question is whether or not anyone still cares or really ever did?

That's what Twohy was saying back then, so this does sound good. Over all this time they're still talking about the same ideas, and now they've expanded to two films.

However it doesn't look like we'll get these anytime soon, and I suspect that we won't be seeing them on the same scale or size as Chronicles. Just look at what the director of Babylon A.D. is saying about the film, if that's true and it turns out to be rubbish, the reputation of Diesel and science fiction stories may just be tarnished with the big studios, never mind how well the Riddick films did on DVD.


'Everyone knows I love the Riddick character and I'm always working on it. It just takes five years to make another one because David Twohy and I are so precious about it.'


Yeah, it might take that long to get together the funding to do a bigger budget film, or they could go back to the smaller Pitch Black style. I'm with the latter myself.


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Time to breathe a sigh of relief as far as theCher/Catwoman rumours are concerned...

CinemaBlend.com:


For all the old media types who actually bought into that crazy story which made the rounds on Monday, the one pegging Cher as the next Catwoman, consider this: Christopher Nolan hasnt even decided if hes going to make a third Batman movie, let alone start casting it.

We heard last week that he wasnt signed to direct and tonight Hollywood Reporter has yet another story (in which they quote my long ago reaction to the, at the time odd casting of Heath Ledger) re-iterating that fact. Theyve spoken with both Legendary Pictures and Warner Bros, and both told them they are interested in doing a third in the series, but all involved say it will be up to Nolan to come to them with a story and a plan. Does that sound like theyve started casting?

Producer Chuck Roven further re-iterates the non-existence of a third Batman movie saying:

'It's really Chris' call. Chris is the kind of filmmaker who just doesn't think about the next movie before he has completely finished the movie he is working on.'

Right now Christopher Nolan is on vacation, not surfing gay fan websites for pictures of Cher to Photoshop into a cat suit. Not only is Cher not involved with the film, the film doesnt exist. Presumably, one way or another, a third Batman movie will be made. Right now though, theres no way to know if Christopher Nolan will direct it, and certainly no way to know who will actually be in it.


Phew!

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Ghost Rider II: Europe

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Speaking with MTV, Nicolas Cage revealed that, in complete disregarding the common good, a second Ghost Rider movie will most likely happen, and that "there have been talks and good ones with where to go with the character." Oh, like discussing going in a more gritty, realistic, Dark Knight-like direction with the character, or something like that? Nope. More like discussing literally where on the planet Earth Ghost Rider should be located. The consensus: Europe!

“It looks like it will take place in Europe and the character will work with the [Catholic] Church. It’ll be a completely new experience. It’s exciting.”


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Another sequel proposed says Filmstalker:


A sequel to Inside Man (Filmstalker review) seems to be going ahead, despite the question of whether or not it's a good idea. News in reveals that the characters are going to be the same and it may also have both Denzel Washington and Clive Owen returning, and that's according to Spike Lee.

The potential new writer also says that the characters are going to return but the story will not be a continuation of the last. So what does that mean then?

Inside Man told the story of a bank raid that seemingly goes wrong and results in the arrival of the police and a hostage negotiation team. What follows is a tense thriller with a game of cat and mouse with quite a few surprises and twists on the way.

It's a good film from Spike Lee, written by Russel Gewirtz, and stars Clive Owen and Denzel Washington as well as some superb appearances from Jodie Foster and Christopher Plummer Foster, you really should be playing more morally darker characters Willem Dafoe and Chiwetel Ejiofor also star.

The story for Inside Man was pretty much an open and shut case and I really don't know where they could go with a sequel, here's what Spike Lee thinks when he spoke at the Toronto International Film Festival through Yahoo News.


'I want the script to be even better than Russell's, and Russell wrote a really good script.'


Yeah, next to nothing. However word is that all the characters are going to return, and that's something he echoed, saying that both Denzel Washington and Clive Owen are keen to return.

So what could the story possibly be? Well Lee want's the two characters back and to be the focus of the story, once again concentrating on the relationship between the two, but what about the plot? The whole Inside Man thing has already been done, so are we going to get something as clever, or now is it just a manhunt between the two characters?



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Ermm not really, everyone either went to jail or died... The only thing left unsaid was just who exactly Jodie Foster's character was and she got her comeuppance. I suppose you could go for the further adventures of Denzels character.

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A possible Hulk sequel on the way ? (Credit - Filmstalker):


Edward Norton seems to be very unsure if he's going to return as The Incredible Hulk, if he'll be involved in a sequel, and even if a sequel will go ahead.

In fact listening to him you might wonder if Marvel are planning anything on the Hulk, even a part in the Avengers film that everyone keeps talking about.

Speaking about Marvel and the Hulk character to MTV Movies (no source given) through Comic Book Movie Edward Norton says:

'The minds of Marvel are sometimes opaque...I wont say [they're] obtuse, but I dont have any idea what they want to do.'

Considering there was some debate between Norton, Louis Leterrier and Marvel about the The Incredible Hulk final cut, it could very well be that Marvel aren't exactly happy with him for the sequel.

To be honest though I would suspect that really Marvel don't know what they want to do with the character next, even if they want to do anything at all.

He also speaks a little about his thoughts on the idea of the Avengers film:

'Theyve got this notion of collecting the Marvel characters...Who knows where theyll go?'

Yeah, I feel a little like that too. Actually I have stronger feelings about it. I don't see how they can make an ensemble film without introducing their characters in their own films first...and I'm not even going to go into the problems that bringing all the characters together would bring forth budget, story, changing each character's universe forever, etc.

I mean how could The Incredible Hulk race around and fight another out of control creature without one other superhero leaping in there to help out and sort it out? He's obliterating the army, hurting people right left and centre, and destroying property. Wouldn't someone else step in?

Once you bring all the characters together then they'll be aware of each other and the problems they face. Would we not see them leaping into each other's stories from then on?

I just don't think it would work that well. As for an Incredible Hulk sequel, well I can see there being more there and it working, but would Edward Norton come back again? Is he now too expensive for Marvel in terms of cost and creative input?


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(From Filmstalker)

M. Night Shyamalan has been talking about his film future, and he's been discussing the possibility of a sequel to Unbreakable, or at least another film that is based around the comic book theme.

I'm excited about the idea of an Unbreakable sequel, but it cannot and I really mean to stress this do anything to affect the strength of the original, that is a must. What might be interesting is another comic-book in reality story.

Either way M. Night Shyamalan is interested in doing another film. He was talking about it recently and when asked about a possible sequel he said:


'I genuinely just asked this question the other day should I make Unbreakable 2? I do love the [comic book movie] genre, I just wanna make sure that Im able to express who I am...I dont want to get so lost in the subject that I have to neuter everything thats me in it, so maybe Unbreakable is the comic book thing I should do I keep coming back to that.'


I do hope he keeps making films, sure he's had a few stumbling blocks although far from the drops in his career that the media make them out to be but look at other film-makers and you can see much longer careers littered with some terrible films, why is this guy getting all the flack? What, do you want M. Night Shyamalan to stop making films and Uwe Boll to continue?

Anyway, that's not the point here, the real discussion is about should they have a second Unbreakable film and revist the characters of David Dunn, the man who realises there's something special about him, and Mr Glass, the man who discovers Dunn and helps him realise what he is, all at the expense of the lives of hundreds of people.

Personally I loved the film, it's a wonderful idea, beautifully brought to the big screen, and amazingly thought through. In many ways I believe this is better than Sixth Sense. Talk to critics though and they don't like it, after all it doesn't meet what they think a Shyamalan film should be...that template having been created with just one film.

MTV through /Film have his comments above that really do look like he's considering it, and there's a great quote from Samuel L. Jackson that sets the scene perfectly:


'He was a victim of what Quentin [Tarrantino] was a victim of. Jackie Brown is a great movie, but its not Pulp Fiction 2. Unbreakable is a great movie, but its not I see [expletive removed - Richard] dead people.'


Great point and well made, however Unbreakable is much better than Jackie Brown. Originally it seems that the film was meant to be a trilogy, but the poor reviews and critics who are full of themselves and want to be personalities more than enjoy films, destroyed that idea.

Shyamalan admits that the critics got to him too, something you don't hear film-makers admitting to very often, but how could anyone not be affected by the continual backlash he receives?


'I made the mistake of getting caught up in the hype of the immediate reaction of the movie, which, experience has shown me, is not accurate to any of my movies...And If I had been more confident and said 'I believe in that movie, I love that movie, and I should just go start writing the second one,' that wouldve been the right move. Ive still been thinking about it a lot and wonder if its too late.'


It's not too late and you could really do a second film, and a third. Apparently he even talked to Jackson and Bruce Willis about where the characters would go. With Jackson's Glass breaking out of prison and Willis' hero reluctantly going after him, it could have continued to develop the superhero story in real life, and probably to great success.

I would definitely want to see more of the Unbreakable series, what about you?


Nope. I lasted about 20 minutes of the first film before turning it off. Dull, dull, dull....

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