Over at the SSS forums the Yanks there are consistently bickering over these two in every thread! Yes, even the wrestling threads get turned into a political debate between the Obama supporters and the McCain supporters.

Bottom line: Americans are racist so McCain will win.

I had a lot of respect for Obama but then he went and asked Chris Rock to introduce him at a rally. Now at times I find Chris Rock hillarious, but his constant referal to black people as ni...(yeah, like I'm gonna dare to use that word on here!) and white people as Crackers (which is a racially derogatory term) hardly makes him an apprpriate guest speaker at a political rally. Bush was a huge mistake and I feel sorry for these two because they can't win. If they keep the troops in Iraq/Afganistan then they're breaking their promise to voters and are just another Bush. If they pull them out both countries will drown in a sea of corruption and in-fighting and they will be known as the person who somehow found a way to make those countries worse! So in a warped way I hope McCain wins. He'll just be another failed President. If Obama, as the first black President takes that fall then, unfortunately, the racist and biggots in America will use that as justification of their hatred and will bring it back up to throw dirt whenever another black person stands for election.

God, I know how to ramble incoherently!

In fairness to America, I think its hard to see us having a black or Asian PM in the UK either. Depressingly, too, the BNP seem to be on the rise.

believe that BNP support is in the rise as many people I know are heading that way. I try to remain objective but it's easy to see why white people want to follow a party that mainly looks out for their own kind. After all there are plnty of pressure groups etc. that look out for the interests of other ethnic groups. I dont agree with the majority of what the BNP spew forth with, but they are becoming more mainstream and it's about time there was legitimate group to represent the white people of this country. Especially with "positive" discrimination rife in this country.

I would disagree. London is quite the reverse. Where this country has gone wrong is expecting that we could embrace multiculturalism with no problems. This country also still feels the need to appologise for things that happened 200 years ago in colonial times etc. In fairness I think we went a long way towards making up for that when we stopped a much more menacing wannabe empire!

Ahhh, now I see your point. Yes and that is the very essence of why the BNP is not the group I would like representing white people in this country. They are no different to extremists of other ethnicities/beliefs. Some people need to realise you can look out for your own kinds interests without treading on the toes of others.

GLOWlad wrote:

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I loathe the BNP and what they stand for. I agree that their are some legitimate concerns about immigation and poverty. These need to be addressed.

But no matter how respectable the BNP seek to appear, most of them are racist to the core. They exploit the anxities of the people, to forward their own racist agenda. They are football hooligans, neo-nazis, criminals and misfits.

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Very much so. But you'll find that they are far fom the only offenders in this department.

And alot of Islamic extremists have succeeded where the BNP/NF failed for years, to create a huge amount of racial tension.

 

She sounds like she is perfect for Government!

He's Republican Braxious. He's obliged to back him

call me a cynic but as soon as the S**T hits the fans Palin rolls out the adpoted daughter who by reports have never been photographed in a family unit for political purposes..mmmmmm

im just a cynic

to be totally honest i think the deomocrate have missed the boat to deliver a really great ticket with a clinton obama package.

From PWI:

In a video on The Smackdown Your Vote website Mr. Kennedy endorses John McCain for president.

ANother piece of Palin news, you all seemed to miss, Palin has also reportedly had an affair with her husbands ex-work partner.  That one was quickly sewpt under the carpet.

Can I recommend you read Micheal Moore's latest book - Mike's Election Guide 2008, it's rather excellent and he makes some absolutely briliant points.

Also joins the growing number who are calling for the entirity of the Bush Administration who should be led out of the White House and Impeached on multiple charges of wrong doing and war crimes.  Intresting read.


-- Edited by Darth Mattitude at 09:10, 2008-09-07

Oh I know, but it's doing the rounds on email and I wondered if anyone would bite...

You probably all heard this already but I found it really funny, mostly because of the reaction it has caused from so many.

Russel Brand who hosted MTV movie awards pleaded with Americans to vote for Obama and followed it with...

Some people, I think they're called racists, say America is not ready for a black president. But I know America to be a forward thinking country because otherwise why would you have let that retarded cowboy fella be president for eight years?

I know many of you here don't like Russel Brand but you have to admit what he said this time was funny and quite accurate on the retard bit

Palin is a really worrying character, she has questions to answer about her nutty creationist views.

She plays up that 'folksy' angle the way Bush did, its nauseating, but I can see it working.

Any wrestlers known to be Democrats? Mick Foley strikes me as a liberal, live and let live kinda guy...

A solution to the Presidential Election problem:


To the citizens of the United States of America, in the light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories.

Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

Your new Prime Minister (The Right Honourable Gordon Brown MP, for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a Minister for America without the need for further elections.

The House of Representatives and the Senate will be disbanded.

A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium." Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.

The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour'; skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters.

You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise."

You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to re-spell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation.

Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up vocabulary." Using the same thirty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "uhh", "like", and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.

Look up "interspersed."

There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary, then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier).

You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents --- Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles.

While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon." If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters.

British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness. Popular British films such as the Italian Job and the Wicker Man should never be remade.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American "football." There are other types of football such as Rugby, Aussie Rules & Gaelic football. However proper football - which will no longer be known as soccer, is the best known, most loved and most popular. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game.

The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football.

Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies).

We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2010.

You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of North America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders," which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

8. The 4th of July is no longer a public holiday. The 2nd of November will be a new national holiday, but only in Britain. It will be called "Indecisive Day."

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap, and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.

All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call 'French fries' are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat.

Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling "beer" is not actually beer at all, it is lager . From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." The substances formerly known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine," with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine." This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in the Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13. From the 10th of November the UK will harmonise petrol (or "gasoline," as you will be permitted to keep calling it until the 1st of April) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $10/US gallon -- get used to it).

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

16. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your co-operation.

I think this could just swing the vote for McCain-Palin:

It's not my piece I got it from another forum...The fact it praises football (soccer) should have been the give away to that!