RAW Thread *SPOILERS*

Man In Black · Anime Mod

RE: RAW Thread *SPOILERS*

Mollison · 500 Club Member

Yup...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Adamle

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

Don't forget the American Gladiators original presenter too...

Totoro101 · Movie Executive Producer

An average raw but the real story is before the show and in the dark match where the awesome Takeshi Morishima easily beat Charlie Hass in under 3 minutes,and heres some pretty cool pics of Takeshi backstage!

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Man In Black · Anime Mod

Terrible RAW this week. CM Punk jobbed out in his home town; Tag Team champs buried to Cena in a handicap match; Eddie Colon buried before even doing anything and a TNA-esque main event for the next PPV.

EPIC FAIL!

Totoro101 · Movie Executive Producer

Read the raw results and it did sound so poor..Lets hope the E Sign Takeshi up and let him loose on the roster!

Creepfnshow · On The Casting Couch

is this a co promotion between wwe and NOAH on the horizon?

A mouth watering concept for the japan shows if NOAH could borrow Jericho, Triple H and HBK. A stint in NOAH would benefit Cena and Batista as well as new talent coming through.

Not sure how WWE would benefit though from a television standpoint unless they want to utilise Morishima and Rikio as the new foreign menace heels

Or they want to invest in cruiserweights again? Unlikely though i would mark out for KENTA kicking the shit out of CM Punk for stealing his finish

Man In Black · Anime Mod

The problem is that the NOAH work stiff and the WWE guys are wusses. Guys like JBL who think they are tough will get their asses handed to them by the likes of Morishima and Takayama and will quit the business (not a bad thing where JBL is concerned).

Vince won't let the NOAH guys work their own style and will no doubt book them as stereotyped Japanese bad guys out of the Hirohito mould who "no speak Engrish" etc...

Creepfnshow · On The Casting Couch

let me dream MIB, let me dream

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Pic of Morishima from the RAW tapings:

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Via another forum:

Well Dave Meltzer had an update on this Sunday on Wrestling Observer Live. He said it's not looking good for Morishima being brought into WWE. The reasons for this should come as no surprise to people. The story is that people in WWE were put off by Morishima's look. They also thought Morishima disrespected his tryout by showing up in the shape he's in. Seriously.

Uh...Umaga anyone?

Totoro101 · Movie Executive Producer

Morishima has a great look and is an awesome wrestler.Because he isnt over 6ft 7 tall and built like he-man, and add to the fact hes Japanese, he hadent any chance of being signed up by the E.Good thing to because hes better off without them.The E is an entertainment company first and foremost,while Morishima is a pure wrestler,the 2 just do not mix.Utterly ridiculous though if true,takashi has never been in the best shape but it should detract from his fantastic ring ability.

Mollison · 500 Club Member

Everyone cross fingers that DAVE sells to Kane tonight...

Man In Black · Anime Mod

More on the Morishima deal falling through:

According to the WON, they weren't baseless rumors. The deal was done, Ace had worked it out with NOAH management, but Vince put a kibosh on the deal when he saw Morishima and thought he was too fat. Also apparently Hayes had heard the Gordy comparisons and bad mouthed Morishima because he was insulted by people saying that he was as good as Gordy.

Michael Hayes strikes again...

Totoro101 · Movie Executive Producer

Micheal Hayes certainly has a strange attitude towards people of other races..

Man In Black · Anime Mod

So does Vince for that matter....

Man In Black · Anime Mod

PWInsider.com:

The 9/15 edition of Raw did just a 2.6 cable rating. That is NOT a typo. The show did not have one quarter hour that broke a 3.0. The highest one came at 10:15 and only did a 2.91. The show did hours of 2.51 and 2.7.

Yes, they were hurt by Monday Night Football but a 2.6 is still a 2.6. The time has finally come for Vince McMahon to address the flaws in his creative process if he wants to have a chance at ending the audience erosion.

I speculated earlier in the day that the great Monday Night Football game between Dallas and Philadelphia would cost WWE some of their audience and it did. The game did a 13.3 cable rating, which was the best rating that ESPN has ever done. For WWE apologists who thinks that lets WWE off of the hook, MNF has scored higher numbers on free TV in the past, and also gone up against the Major League Baseball playoffs and football at the same time. Again, a 2.6 is a 2.6 and for the last four weeks, Raw's ratings have been horrible.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, that starts and ends with Vince McMahon's vision of creative. For those who asked about the season finale of The Closer on TNT, which did a 5.9 cable rating, it is not a factor since the show draws much older viewers than WWE.

Totoro101 · Movie Executive Producer

Owch is all i have to say about that rating..

DoctorOfDesire · 500 Club Member

Does anyone else see the 'Priceless' faction growing? The WWE have a wealth of second and third generation wrestlers at their disposal at the minute that they could throw into the mix. Randy is obviously going to be unveiled as the leader, with DiBiase and Rhodes as the tag team and Manu as the 'enforcer'. All they need is a IC-level wrestler (DH Smith?) and a diva (Natalya?) and the faction could be complete. They could even unveil Deuce as Snuka Jnr!

BTW, does anyone else think that the best thing about Raw at the moment is the Charlie Haas gimmick? I nearly peed my pants when he came out as The Great Charli!!! Hahaha!

-- Edited by DoctorOfDesire at 22:16, 2008-10-05

Man In Black · Anime Mod

No, I think four people is enough. Five at a stretch but four is always a solid and reliably workable number.

The nWo is proof of what happens when you let too many people join the group. It dilutes the effect their initial impact had, leaves less room for decent feuds with existing ones getting stale quickly and with extraneous people hanging around, it creates a tier system where the lower ranked members will have no gravitas whatsoever.