X Factor Thread

Man In Black · Anime Mod

X Factor Thread

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Is it me or is Louis Walsh being an even bigger dick this year with his comments?

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

I was going to post the same thing... Ughh I still can't stand Hope.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Holy testicles! They vote Nikki off! Leon - who is useless - is in the final with Same Difference and Rhydian!!

The only consolation is that it's one in the eye for Louis Walsh!

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

Something tells me the Public has decided to make Nikki pay for Louis behaviour.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

WTF? I hope that Rhydian does a Clay Aitken to Leon's Rueben Studdard in American Idol 2 and ends up more successful of the two despite coming second.

-- Edited by Man In Black at 10:36, 2007-12-16

braxious · 500 Club Member

a big fix leon can not sing
and where is his market??

braxious · 500 Club Member

having re watched xfactor FIX is all i can say leon was crap

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

As per usual the 'fix' cries of not being able to get through start....

Fans of The X Factor have claimed problems with phone lines prevented them voting for favourite and eventual runner-up Rhydian Roberts.
Some viewers said they tried to vote up to 10 times but could not get through, and they branded the contest "unfair".

Some radio stations in Rhydian's native Wales said they would boycott the winner's single and demanded a recount.

But both the programme and ITV said they had no reports of problems with the phone lines.

Scotland's Leon won the ITV1 show and a £1m recording contract, beating Rhydian, who had been the 1/3 favourite.

But viewers who had tried to vote for Rhydian, 24, from Sennybridge, Powys, insisted the phone lines were constantly busy during Saturday night's live final.

Gwyneth Greenslade, from Llandrindod Wells, Powys, said she had phoned 10 times and could not get through.

Her two friends also tried seven and 10 times respectively - and they too failed to register a vote.

"If you ring 10 times you expect to get through - I was very cross," said Mrs Greenslade.

"A lot of other people in this area said they couldn't get through. It seems to be very unfair."

Andrew Powell, from Abergavenny, e-mailed BBC Wales to say he and his family tried ringing to vote for Rhydian for an hour-and-a-half, only to be told the network was busy.

'Altered the outcome'

He wrote: "If the 'network' was busy then surely the amount of votes could not accurately be counted as the possibility of thousands of other voters that could not get through may have altered the outcome."

Fans on website message boards also complained about being unable to get through to vote for Rhydian.

A group of radio stations in Wales - including Bridgend's Bridge FM, Swansea Bay Radio, Radio Carmarthenshire and Radio Pembrokeshire - said they would ban Leon's Christmas single over the voting.

The stations, which are part of the Town and Country Broadcasting group, said they wanted a recount after being inundated with calls from their listeners about the busy phone lines.

A spokeswoman for The X Factor said there were no reports of problems on the phone lines.

She said if people could not get through, it would be because of the high volume of calls - an issue that is dealt with by its phone provider.

An ITV spokeswoman also said there had been "no problems" with the voting lines.

OK, so explain to me why someone on the X-Factor would do this? It's quite clear who the judges wanted to win. i.e. Rhydian. So, what would they have to gain? Personally I think neither of them are marketable to a 'pop' market. If you wanted pop then Same Difference should have won. Personally I think after beverly and Nikki went so did the best possible winners. Rhydian is best suited to the stage. Leon can join Ray from last year in the crooners none entity market. Why oh why use that song from Prince of Egypt as well? Leona Lewis would have been better off with that. Oh and what the hell was Kylie thinking? THAT outfit was awful...

Man In Black · Anime Mod

First off, the "pop" market isn't exclusive to the X-Factor winner. It's the immediate association with the contest that sells the records because it's what the public voted for.

G4 weren't pop and they sold shed loads of records and were more successful than the eventual winner. Same with the crooner boy last year and it will be the same with Leon. Rhydian can sell records doing standards and operatic pop and have a career just like the Three Tenors or the Russell Watsons of the world. The genre is irrelevant now. He is out there and he will sell records.

Pop isn't the only genre to sell records these days.

And I believe that if the results is genuine it was probably from people who felt that Rhydian had it in the bag and thus gave their vote to Leon out of sympathy, hence the shock win.

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

I still don't think Rhydian will sell well operatically. He's more inclined for Theatre.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Probably not straight opera but "Pop opera" like G4. And yes he should do big Lloyd Webber style productions like Phantom Of The Opera or others like Les Miserables..

-- Edited by Man In Black at 17:59, 2007-12-19

DoctorOfDesire · 500 Club Member

Yeah he'd make a great 'Phantom'. Gets a mask over his weird face too!

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

No surprises here then....

X Factor winner Leon Jackson is on track to score this year's Christmas number one single.

The 18-year-old Scot is currently number one in the mid-week chart with his debut track, When You Believe, according to industry paper Music Week.

Katie Melua and the late Eva Cassidy are set to be number two spot with What A Wonderful World, while Leona Lewis's Bleeding Love is in third place.

The Pogues' Fairytale Of New York has also seen a sales surge this week.

HMV spokesman Gennaro Castaldo told the BBC that download sales for the 1987 track had increased following Radio 1's decision to censor its lyrics.

'Momentum'

"It's one of those songs where, as people realise it's available to buy, they'll pick up on it and start downloading which is why momentum is growing for it," he said.

"It's not enough to beat the X Factor winner, but probably enough to propel it into the top three."

Radio 1 initially bleeped out the word "faggot" from the duet between Pogues frontman Shane MacGowan and the late Kirsty MacColl in case it offended listeners but changed its mind after complaints.

Castaldo added that it did not seem that Leon's song would sell as well as last year's Christmas number one by previous X Factor winner, Leona Lewis.

"It won't be quite as phenomenal as Leona," he said. "She sold 500,000 copies in four days.

"But he's still selling three to four times the amount of his closest rival."

Daniel Himsworth, a spokesman for Woolworths, said that copies of Leon's single were selling at the rate of 40-per-minute at the chain.

"There are definitely no challengers. If it continues this way he'll sell 350,000 in a week," he said.

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

Right, 2008's X-Factor is about to kick off but as MiB has previously mentioned in chat box, they have to find a replacement for Sharon Osbourne first. Here are two of the favorites...

Former Spice Girl Mel B and Girls Aloud singer Cheryl Cole have both been approached to be a judge on X Factor.

Sharon Osbourne, who's leaving the show, told Radio 1's Chris Moyles that she'd heard producers had approached the pair to fill her spot.

She gave Cheryl Cole her personal backing and said she felt the time was right to leave the ITV1 show.

She said: "I loved it. They were the best four years of my life but I've got to do something else right now."

Who do you think should be the next X Factor judge?
There may be problems with Cheryl Cole taking over from Sharon Osbourne though.

She announced that Girls Aloud had started recording a new album at a concert in London recently.

'No cash issue'

Sharon denied she was leaving the show because she hadn't been offered enough money to stay.

She said: "We were negotiating and they offered me an obscene amount of money. It didn't change anything. I had to walk away when I did."

Sharon Osbourne did the interview in bed from her house in Los Angeles and talked to Chris Moyles with husband Ozzy next to her.

"I love the show, I love everybody there, the producers, Simon [Cowell] but it's just time to move on," she added.

Louis Walsh and Dannii Minogue will continue as judges on the show with Simon Cowell.

The wife of rock star Ozzy Osbourne announced she was stepping down last week after four series and has never mentored a winning act on the show.

There had been speculation about the 55-year-old quitting the show over back-stage clashes.

In October, she walked out of one episode of the X Factor after two of her three acts found themselves in the bottom two of the show.

She's now working in the US on America's Got Talent but is coming back to the UK for Elton John's Aids charity event in the summer.

Cheryl Cole? Thats a joke right? What on earth does she know about talent spotting? Other than coming through the system herself on Popstars and the fact she would probably draw in a few male viewers...

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Paula Abdul should get the gig. That would be a hoot.

Those choices of Scary Spice and Geordie Tweedy are just risible. The papers even suggested Posh Spice. Someone amazingly even less qualified and more objectionable than those two.

Mollison · 500 Club Member

I'd love to see a real musician get it. 2 producers, a "pop-puppet" and a Rock Legends other half, make a poor panel. The shows credibility is already low. I hope they realise putting another "pop-puppet" on will not help that issue. Someone like John Bon Jovi would be an improvement and he has enough commercial appeal for the pop crowd to know him. But cant see them tempting him money-wise. Sting? Bryan Adams? Brian May? Unfortunately, none of these need the fame boost or the money.

Which just goes to show, genuine talent never fades so the people who could genuinly improve the show and make it credible, have no want or need to do it.

If they were, I doubt Simon could handle a bigger personality on a panel with him. I still think this is why he never did Americas Got Talent. The Hoff wouldn't be intimidated by him.

And now this has turned into a random rant...

Lava · A List Star

I would watch it avidly if Cheryl Cole took over, don't worry about what she does or doesn't know....

Man In Black · Anime Mod

And therein lies the problem....

braxious · 500 Club Member

yess give the job to paula and watch her go slowly round the twist,

braxious · 500 Club Member

and on the subject of X factor - where is last years winner??????

there has been nowt since christmas

is he serving fries @ MacDs

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

Girls Aloud star Cheryl Cole has been named as the new judge on The X Factor.

The pop star will fill the gap left by long-standing judge Sharon Osbourne, who announced earlier last week she was quitting the show.

Cole will join Simon Cowell, Louis Walsh and Dannii Minogue on the popular ITV talent show.

Osbourne, who was a judge for four years, revealed both Cole and Spice Girl Mel B had been approached about taking her place.

Cole, 24, who shot to fame when Girls Aloud won reality TV show Popstars: The Rivals, said it was "scary" to be joining the ITV1 show.

"It's a massive honour to be following in the footsteps of Sharon Osbourne," she said.

"The rest of the girls have said they're right behind me, which is really important for me as it will be weird to be on the other side of the fence this time. "So whilst we get started on the next album, it will be brilliant to be a judge on The X Factor."

Osbourne, 55, who announced she was quitting on Friday, has denied she walked out because TV bosses would not meet her pay demands.

She told Radio 1 on Monday: "We were negotiating and they offered me an obscene amount of money. It didn't change anything. I had to walk away when I did."

Cole is to start filming in London this week. The series returns later in the summer.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Groan.....

Mollison · 500 Club Member

braxious wrote:

and on the subject of X factor - where is last years winner??????

there has been nowt since christmas

is he serving fries @ MacDs

Simon Cowell knows what he's doing. Leona Lewis did nothing for a year, now shes pops hottest property. By delaying he does 2 things. 1, Makes the artist a seperate entity from the show. But 2, can then use them to promote the show and vice-versa a year later.

As irritating as he is, the man's an absolute genius.

Oh, and I'll join in the general groaning at Cheryl Cole's appointment. But its true, male viewership will rise... (put your own pun here...)!

braxious · 500 Club Member

i totallly agree that SC knows what he's doing - however, even with his talent the last years winner still is a 1 trick pony and does not have 1/2 the ability of Leona or Rhydian.

look out for a lad called Scott ( cant rememeber his surnmae) from manchester hes a m8 of a m8 who started to aduition for X factor in march and is beofore the judges very soon.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

"m8 of a m8"?

braxious · 500 Club Member

sorry that should be mate of a mate - or friends friend. it very lazy of me

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

EDIT scratch that I got the wrong guy. Ray Quinn (2006's runner up) is now in Grease 'starring' as Doody. Bye, Bye to that career then...

-- Edited by Darth Mattitude at 09:47, 2008-06-11

Man In Black · Anime Mod

Leona Lewis is the only X-Factor winner's name I can remember - but that is only because she is being pushed to the moon.

braxious · 500 Club Member

update my x factor friend Scott bruton is before the judges 29 30 june and 1st july.

[youtube=http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_yuW8twQ3M]

if hes get to the TV stage vote for him

Man In Black · Anime Mod

He won't.

Mollison · 500 Club Member

A mate of a mate has now become you friend... Hmmmm, glory hunt much?

I stopped listening during the talking, he really shouldn't do that!

Not my thing at all, but for pop stuff i suppose he's good if not very memorable.

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

Here is the first puiblicity shot..

Man In Black · Anime Mod

They should replace Dermott with Holly for the main show then throw Dermott into a lake of fire.

braxious · 500 Club Member

not long until the fun begins.....

braxious · 500 Club Member

well x factor starts very very soon.

Spoiler: as i posted earlier a mate of a mate Scott bruton tried out in manchester and he got 4 yeses so he through to boot camp.

the best thing is no sharon as she gets in my nerves.

braxious · 500 Club Member

well it all kicks off saturday its almost like x factor never went off air.

Spoiler: Scott bruton who i posted about earlier has made it to the judges home, hes in the last 6

hope this season is good as they dont have sharon.

-- Edited by braxious at 08:25, 2008-08-14

Mollison · 500 Club Member

yeah but they got The Tweedy instead. Not much of an upgrade. At least Shazza's tantrums provided some entertainment!

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

Mr Cowell is making promises to the general public now...

Simon Cowell has promised there will be "no funny business" with phone voting on this year's series of The X Factor.

Public confidence in TV competition voting took a hit after a series of issues involving ITV and BBC shows.

Cowell said the ITV talent show came out "clean as a whistle" in an Ofcom investigation last year.

The impresario added: "Our producers pride themselves on fairness. We have to trust producers and we have to have the public trust us."

While shows including Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway were found to have "serious editorial issues" following the watchdog's investigation, The X Factor did not.

In December, Ofcom also said it was looking into 80 complaints from X Factor viewers who claimed they could not phone in to vote for eventual runner-up Rhydian Roberts.

Alleged attack

Speaking at a press conference to launch the latest series of the show, Cowell also said it was impossible to know if contestants had skeletons in their cupboard.

Last year, 15-year-old finalist Emily Nakanda withdrew from the show after a video emerged showing her allegedly attacking a teenage girl.

She was seen punching and grabbing the girl by the hair in the video recorded on a mobile phone.

Cowell said: "We don't know. We know a little bit... but this is a reality show and we have no way of knowing what's going to happen."

Contestants this year include a 26-year-old woman called Rachel who has five children - the first born when she was 13 - has battled a drugs problem, and spent time in prison.

Cowell added that the show was about "giving people a second shout".

Mollison · 500 Club Member

You know what pisses me off so much? The Yanks have free phone voting for American Idol. We have to pay £1. They cover this up on the UK broadcast but watch a AI video on youtube and you get to see the numbers to vote at the bottom. Considering Cowell has a big piece of control of both you'd think he'd do something about it!

I know the network has overall control but it would be one hell of a way to win the ratings war with SCD.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

I don't think Simon Cowell has much if any control over American Idol. That's more down to Nigel Lythgoe and Simon Fuller as well as the big wigs at FOX.

X-factor I believe is his pet project so that show he does have say over what happens. But he is a business man so any way to make a buck and he's in.

Mollison · 500 Club Member

But if they made voting free, or at very least very cheap I think the ratings would soar and they could make the money from Ads rather than 12 year olds running up their folks bill.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

The ratings will always be strong for X-Factor - viewer participant in the voting is another thing. Whether the current credit crunch situation will affect the voting in this show remains to be seen but lowering the tariff or dropping it altogether will definitely serve to encourage more voting.

Having no knowledge on how the arrangement works between BT (or whoever the phone host is) and the TV companies/Ofcom/X-Factor means I can only speculate that their deal is based on sharing the profits hence the need for call charge.

In the US, since product placement on TV is accepted, I imagine the deal is that the phone company gets some sort of commercial plug for their services and maybe even a cut of the advertising revenue a show the size of Idol makes in lieu of profits from phone charges. Again that is speculation on my part.

Mollison · 500 Club Member

Your right I expect, as AT&T are all over the banners with the numbers and before that Cingular.

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

Well, I think I prefer the qualification shows rather than the live singoffs each week anyway, I never vote as I detest having to pay to choose someone who we will all end payig for in the long term to get a career.

Maybe we should have a Forum Idol competition of some shape or form...

braxious · 500 Club Member

totally agree DM forum idol

Mollison · 500 Club Member

How would such a thing work?

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

No idea.....

But still lol lol lol lol Ant and Deaf lol.

Man In Black · Anime Mod

After watching Xtra Factor on ITV2 I DEMAND that Holly Willoughby is moved to the main show and Dermott So'Dreary is immediately executed.

Darth Mattitude · The Dark Admin

Absolutely. She actually has charisma.